Internal balancer??

[jrthone]

Im after an Internally balanced balancer for my set up and just wondering what you guys have run in the past or recommend. 632 BBC Dart Big M Ohio crank Ohio rods Wiesco 15.5-1 pistons BB3 Xtra ported heads Methanol injection bird catcher on Victor 2-R Tunnel ram.jesel dry belt drive 850 lift roller cam.MSD Crank trigger with 7AL-2 . 1.76 glide with 4500 converter. Thanks

[Tod74]

I run a ATI super dampr on my 540...but have also used fluidampre in the past...nice balancer. Don't get a cheapo in my opinion.

[jrthone]

What about Pioneer. Are they ok?

[hammertime]

What about Pioneer. Are they ok?

All them good parts put a ATI on it !!

[cepx111]

Not trying to hijack this thread or anything but what is the benefit of putting a fluid dampner ( balancer ) on a rotating assembly that's already been internally balanced?

The balancer is just neutral anyway correct?

I thought they were only of benefit on a motor that was externally balanced?

Learn me.

Cp

[Tod74]

Not trying to hijack this thread or anything but what is the benefit of putting a fluid dampner ( balancer ) on a rotating assembly that's already been internally balanced?

The balancer is just neutral anyway correct?

I thought they were only of benefit on a motor that was externally balanced?

Learn me.

Cp

Good question...I had one on an external balance 454 but have the ATI on my internal balanced motor.

[ashtrak]

ATI the only way to go IMO

[john858]

broken record :) ,don't waste your $,buy an ati

[john858]

quik ? is that 176 tran stock? if it is your going to mess some stuff up!

[curtisreed]

Not trying to hijack this thread or anything but what is the benefit of putting a fluid dampner ( balancer ) on a rotating assembly that's already been internally balanced?

The balancer is just neutral anyway correct?

I thought they were only of benefit on a motor that was externally balanced?

Learn me.

Cp

I think your terminology is getting in the way. It is not a balancer it is a vibration dampener. Doesn't matter if it is internal or external balanced engine as far as the job the dampener is doing, it only matters as far as whether or not it has the extra balance weight on it for internal or external. It still does the same job on either. I hope this makes sense.

Curtis

[signsbyesa]

i have a lunati internaly balanced, don't for get to use a good SFI
flexplate to balance your internals and i'm using a ATI internal
slug, take your flexplate with your crank to get them balanced
and good luck with your sbc :wink:

[tcarda]

Im after an Internally balanced balancer for my set up and just wondering what you guys have run in the past or recommend. 632 BBC Dart Big M Ohio crank Ohio rods Wiesco 15.5-1 pistons BB3 Xtra ported heads Methanol injection bird catcher on Victor 2-R Tunnel ram.jesel dry belt drive 850 lift roller cam.MSD Crank trigger with 7AL-2 . 1.76 glide with 4500 converter. Thanks

ATI!!!

[TheRabbit]

ATI only!!

[jrthone]

Yes it is stock 1.76 but she will be changed very soon to a 1.80 straight cut.So Pioneer dampners are no good and i should go with ATI or Fluidamper

[jrthone]

Cepx111 not all fluid damper are zero balance i have a fluidamper on my 468 and its an external balance one with a counter weight in it.

[john858]

i have never heard of pioneer but i do know ati's the best. 180's asap :D

[jrthone]

Is there anything wrong with Fluidamprs

[Tod74]

Is there anything wrong with Fluidamprs

NO...they are a very good balancer. I don't know why everyone says ATI is better than all else...maybe they are,iduno,that's what I have now, but The fluidampr I had was a nice piece. Sold it when I built this motor.

[signsbyesa]

you can check out these guys and ask them about theirs, you might
be surprise who the supply http://www.catpep.com/
I put a bbc block together for a friend and used their lt. wt. h-beam
rods and asked them for a stretch number for their bolts and he
told me "The torque is 65 ft-lbs and stretch is 5-7/1000". Thanks for
your question, we sold these rods over 20 years, we supplied to EAGLE, SCAT, LUNATI, and TOMEI before"
just another conection :wink: good luck

[sc3314]

ATI is the only way to fly. They can be recertified, and rebuilt if need be.

[jrthone]

I ended up buying a Fluidampr. Nothing against ATI.

[cepx111]

Cepx111 not all fluid damper are zero balance i have a fluidamper on my 468 and its an external balance one with a counter weight in it. Ok but if your engine is balanced INTERNALLY like most racing engines you would need a NEUTRAL or ZERO balancer and flywheel ( no counter weights ) If your running a dampner and flywheel with a counter weights on a internally balanced engine your basically negating that costly balance job> Cp

[jrthone]

My fluid dampner and flexiplate are both nuetral.Thats what you have on internally balanced motors isnt it ?????

[cepx111]

My fluid dampner and flexiplate are both nuetral.Thats what you have on internally balanced motors isnt it ?????
Yes definetly, neutral for internall balanced and counterweighted for externally balanced.
>Cp