I hate my scoop

[slowmotion]

I really don't like the scoop on my altered. I just don't know what to replace it with. It seems to me that a scoop on an altered is just a parachute on the front of the car.
Has anyone did any testing as far as running with and with out a scoop?

I do like the looks of some of the new aerodynamic scoops but my budget is limited.
I was thinking maybe something like...

http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/sum-g3021_w.jpg

or
http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/sum-g3019-1_w.jpg

Or just run some sort of cool air cleaner.



http://static.racingjunk.com/1/ui/0/50/8123258331145-TRADE-FOR-DOOR-CAR.jpg

[cepx111]

I like the first one, to me they have that nostalic look that's way cool.
Cp

[curtisreed]

I like the spitzer anteater scoop on Bantams. I saw an altered on racingjunk with one of those and it looked great to me.

Curtis

[andamo]

You mention "with and without" a scoop. Don't attempt to make a pass without something over the carb. At speed the air going across the carb will siphon fuel up out of the carb and back onto you.

[kslicks]

I also would go with the top one, Way Cool!!!

[slowmotion]

I like the spitzer anteater scoop on Bantams. I saw an altered on racingjunk with one of those and it looked great to me.

Curtis

I think the anteaters are cool too, but pretty pricey.
$250 for fg and $550 for cf. Then you have to buy the airbox too. That's at least $100 through tuffpaw.

The top one above is just $109 and the black one is $195.

[slowmotion]

You mention "with and without" a scoop. Don't attempt to make a pass without something over the carb. At speed the air going across the carb will siphon fuel up out of the carb and back onto you.

When I said "without a scoop" I meant with an aircleaner. Our track will not let you run with an open carb. It must have a scoop, hood, or filter on it. The siphoning effect would be really bad in a front engine car.

Like..

http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/edl-1002.jpg

http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/mor-65903_w.jpg

[curtisreed]

I like the spitzer anteater scoop on Bantams. I saw an altered on racingjunk with one of those and it looked great to me.

Curtis

I think the anteaters are cool too, but pretty pricey.
$250 for fg and $550 for cf. Then you have to buy the airbox too. That's at least $100 through tuffpaw.

The top one above is just $109 and the black one is $195.

I totally understand, I have the equipment and knowledge to make my own airbox so that would offset the price for me, but 250 is still quite a lot. Nice ride you have though.

Curtis

[nofear57]

Check out add number 1183111 or 1170815 on Racingjunk :roll:

[olds48]

Go super-old-school!!!Mount a mailbox up there.....with the flag up :D

[slowmotion]

Go super-old-school!!!Mount a mailbox up there.....with the flag up :D
I could leave the door on it and just close it for a scoop plug. :D

[slowmotion]

I like the spitzer anteater scoop on Bantams. I saw an altered on racingjunk with one of those and it looked great to me.

Curtis

I think the anteaters are cool too, but pretty pricey.
$250 for fg and $550 for cf. Then you have to buy the airbox too. That's at least $100 through tuffpaw.

The top one above is just $109 and the black one is $195.

I totally understand, I have the equipment and knowledge to make my own airbox so that would offset the price for me, but 250 is still quite a lot. Nice ride you have though.

Curtis

I need to order a converter and rear end gears so a scoop is pretty far down on the "parts needed" list. I was going to order the converter today from BTE but got busy at work and didn't get the chance.

[olds48]

Go super-old-school!!!Mount a mailbox up there.....with the flag up :D
I could leave the door on it and just close it for a scoop plug. :D

That is actually what I have been planning on doing :D .Plus I want to stick a rivet in the flag so it stays up!!! :P

[Tod74]

I wouldn't use that edelbrock pro flow or whatever they call em now. They have a thin foam filter like thingy in them and I seen a guys car back fire one time and melted that crap all over the carb...been a long time ago but turned me off of those things.

jmo

[zipper06]

If it were me i'd go with a butterfly scoop, throw away the elements and hook the linkage 1 to 1 on the buterflys.
RPC is the source for these and can be bought for about $150.00 plus shipping if you have a source which i can hook you up with.

Here's the pics. of their scoops. Of course they have a million other pretty good items also, if you have adobi reader you can look at their cattalog.

http://www.racingpowercompany.com/index.php?cPath=0_8&osCsid=d3b478d0210aa7e73b8e8973de8102b9

JMO


Zip.

[olds48]

I wouldn't use that edelbrock pro flow or whatever they call em now. They have a thin foam filter like thingy in them and I seen a guys car back fire one time and melted that crap all over the carb...been a long time ago but turned me off of those things.

jmo

Been there,done that :oops:

[qwikchik21]

i personally like the 2nd one but the first one would probably look the best on that car!!

[slowmotion]

Thanks for all the opinions. I bought this one yesterday off of a guy on RJ.
http://static.racingjunk.com/63/ui/1/15/4930821687406-harwood-dragster-scoop.jpg

I might still put a Hilborn style on it for comparison or certian events.

[Tod74]

Go super-old-school!!!Mount a mailbox up there.....with the flag up :D
I could leave the door on it and just close it for a scoop plug. :D

That is actually what I have been planning on doing :D .Plus I want to stick a rivet in the flag so it stays up!!! :P

That would be awesome!! lol :lol:

That sorta reminds me of a post I read on here somewhere that was talking about Ron's toilet injection.
Some smart alleck said they tried to run a toilet on their car but the lid wouldn't stay open all the time and it sloshed water all over the motor when he hit the brakes...lol

[slowmotion]

Go super-old-school!!!Mount a mailbox up there.....with the flag up :D
I could leave the door on it and just close it for a scoop plug. :D

That is actually what I have been planning on doing :D .Plus I want to stick a rivet in the flag so it stays up!!! :P

That would be awesome!! lol :lol:

That sorta reminds me of a post I read on here somewhere that was talking about Ron's toilet injection.
Some smart alleck said they tried to run a toilet on their car but the lid wouldn't stay open all the time and it sloshed water all over the motor when he hit the brakes...lol

I bet it would "load up" when idling and you would have to "clean it out" with a plunger. :D

[olds48]

Allright,so who's gonna go with the mailbox?? :D

[ashevilldragcrew]

i like you old scoop,let me know if you want to sell it.

[slowmotion]

i like you old scoop,let me know if you want to sell it.

We're going to drop the engine in tomorrow and start putting the car together. I should be able to sell it with the mounting plate also. I'll try to get some better pics for you.

[ashevilldragcrew]

good deal,send pics to.... [email protected] your new scoop should be worth some hp

[poncholvr]

You mention "with and without" a scoop. Don't attempt to make a pass without something over the carb. At speed the air going across the carb will siphon fuel up out of the carb and back onto you.

i was going to say this- but that it might make your engine stumble from a lack of fuel- i would hate to lose a race because of that-
i mean it does come down to seconds you know

[shoedoos]

what about these?

http://www.alsblowers.com/indexgpp.html

[slowmotion]

Here's the scoop on the car.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f324/32bantam/100_0400-1.jpg

[ARUSSELL]

The mail box would be awsome, makes me wish I had a rat rod

[zipper06]

The mail box would be awsome, makes me wish I had a rat rod

Hehe, :P i guess you could then say you're hauling the mail :lol:

Zip.

[edvancedengines]

You never said what the application is and I see that no one asked. That should be first concern.

By the pics you supplied it looks to be a car used in Brackets? If so that is a killer scoop design that originated in Can-Am style racing and has sucessfully been used in class racing and does makepower.

The ones you posted pics of at first are essentially a no-brainer opening for a carb to sit under that complies with rules and people buy them.

Ed

[slowmotion]

Yep, just a bracket car. Thanks for the info.

[mopar1968]

a FRIEND OF MINE RUN'S A ALTERED [MOPAR] OF COURSE AND JUST USES A MOROSO 14 INCH AIRCLEANER.