What do you think about this, another ebay question

[insane4fbodys]

I sold a couple of rims in seperate auctions, and guess I'm a bad guy. I tried to sell a complete set of early model z/28 rims a couple of weeks ago they didn't sell. So I dicided I would sell off the 2 1970 only rims. I run the very same auction on both rims. This is the auction link; http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150219610203&ssPageName=ADME:L:EOISSA:MOTORS:1123
Not sure on how to paste it but there it is. That 1 is not the guy I have a problem with. He sent me a message that asked about both rims and I was thrown back as he only had bid on 1.
Here's the messages;
christine wrote:
hi its john just checking in did the rims get shipped yet ,what oter parts do you have iam working on several cars john

Hello John,
Yes and no. Both wheels were picked up this morning by my buddy at FedEx for delivery which will have them on their way Monday. And I will recieve your tracking # and send it to you. The no part, maybe is I think you misread the auction. Each auction was for only 1 wheel. It was easier to list the auctions the way I did. So you was bidding on only 1 wheel. If you want, either email or call me and I'll see if I can stop him from shipping yours Monday and refund your money. Sorry that I did not write it clear enough for you. 2 weeks ago I was selling 5 total with both these in the set with all trim piece that was new and they didn't sell so I was breaking them down to sell seperately. If it's any consulation I did include the original factory trim ring that could be brought back and 2 center caps. 1 like new, 1 original faded with the raised bowtie on it. You was a higher bidder and since I wasn't going to use them I thought I would include them. I had stated in the auction that they didn't come with the wheels. My name is Breck and my phone # is 479-xxx-xxxx. As far as other parts go. I do have some as I have 4 cars but some are not as rare as others. I had a 2x4 crossram when I was 18-20 and sold it for $700 to a collector thinking I was doing great back then, LOL. I wish I could go back and tell myself to hang on to it. Thanks Breck

yes refund money thats not fair if i dont receive a refund ill see you in court it was not stated 1 wheel in add .this is a non cool way. of selling products i dont understand these methods of sale.its not right and im sure it is no legal .take care of this mater so we dont have to wast our time in further legal arraingments john !
I'm kind of at a lose, as I thought they were clear in the description. I did offer to send his money back, but damn he sent back the hate mail. I was trying to be nice and don't feel I'm in the wrong at all. I will send his money back but think I'll make him wait a week. I just got a hold of my friend and he has put the wheel into the system, but says he can take it out. So does everyone thing I used the wrong wording with this? Thanks Breck

[MyFairLady]

There are clowns on every website (including this one). Your wording is fine & clear as a bell to anyone who can read. I wouldn't send his money back until you have your rim back, because you'll never see the rim if you count on him sending it back to you. It's perfectly legal under eBay terms to keep his money & let the deal complete as it stands. He'll neg you on your feedback, but you can respond to the negative feedback & neg him back. Knowledgeable buyers can decide who's goofy. Good luck!

[hammertime]

Ebay has a bunch of people that dont read anything ! I am still in the middle of a dispute with one of them.

I'd not refund him his money no way no how ! It cleary says 1 wheel.

[68bbnova]

The only thing I would have questioned you on, after reading the auction for the other rim, is which auction was for the one with the small bend? Both auctions mentioned the bend, on one rim :!: :?:

[Tod74]

TOUGH CALL.you sort of contradicted yourself...you did say 1 rim only...that is very clear..but then you go on to talk about both of them needing painted etc...I don't think you were deceitful at all. Could have been worded diferently though.

[SST4530]

Sounds clear to me, I think the buyer has limited reading comprehension? :?

[Tod74]

Ebay has a bunch of people that dont read anything ! I am still in the middle of a dispute with one of them.

I'd not refund him his money no way no how ! It cleary says 1 wheel.

I think I would only refund it if the next highest bidder was willing to buy it.

[insane4fbodys]

Well, I have got the rim stopped. So I will not have to eat the shipping cost both ways. I believe he has a limited reading ability. I try to be honest on all autions and everything I sell. I will contact the next highest bidder on the part though to see if they are interested as Ebay has already got there money for this. I should of said the highest bidder between the 2 auctions would get the rim without the bend. As that is what I did anyway, and this guy was getting the better rim. If he had wrote me back that he did not understand the auction, and thought he was really bidding on both rims, I would have already refunded his money. The reply I got was not called for so I will wait until this coming weekend to refund his money. He's a 0 feedback buyer anyway and I was taking a chance that he would not even pay. This turned out worse. I will from now on add in my auctions no one under 10+ is to bid unless they contact me first. Thanks for the input guys.

[JPdustnya72]

Hi
I have been doing ebay for years and their are people there that have learned how to GUILT nice people and honest people to give them what they want. YOUR AD WAS CLEAR AND THAT IS YOUR PROTECTION AND EBAY WILL BACK YOU EVEN IF DO NOT WANT TO REFUND. HOLD YOUR GROUND WITH THESE NUM NUTS THEN BLOCK THEM FROM BIDDING ON YOUR STUFF IN THE FUTURE

[lively]

WHEN YOU SHOW A PIC OF 2 WHEELS PEOPLE ASSUME THERE ARE 2 NOT 1- :oops: --THEY DON'T BOTHER TO READ THE ADD AT ALL---NEXT TIME JUST PIC 1 ITEM AND DO YOU ADD LIKE YOU DID[CAUSE THIS MAN PROVED THEY DO NOT PAY ATTENTION AT ALL!!!!!!!!!] :cry: :cry: --AT LEAST YOU DID NOT LOSE THE WHEEL AND THE MONEY :lol: :lol: -LIVELY

[mopar1968]

Sounds clear to me, i guess alot clearer than mine was on the carb.

[olds48]

Clear as a bell.Keep the money.It's rightfully yours.

[Stappy]

WHEN YOU SHOW A PIC OF 2 WHEELS PEOPLE ASSUME THERE ARE 2 NOT 1

I think this is what happened here. But you did mention 1 wheel. I would keep the money as this guy is probably gonna give you negative feedback anyways. Well that is, if he can figure out how...... :roll:

[insane4fbodys]

I finally sent back his money and I have my wheel. He had already gave me + feedback the day after he paid for it. :lol: I'm sure he can not read as you have send how his spelling is. I guess I'm back at square 1 as the other guy backed out of the other wheel auction too. So Ebay, got paid for me selling these and I still have them both and less money. I will always run future auctions with a clause that no one under 15+ feedbacks need bid, or I'll cancel their bids. This sucked the big 1. But it's done now, I hope.

[lively]

WHY DON'T YOU LIST THEM ON RJ?---WE ALL LIVE AND LEARN[ WAIT-I AM STILL LEARNING BUT AN NOT SURE I'M ALIVE :shock: ]

[insane4fbodys]

I listed the full set on RJ once and they didn't sell. I might try just the 2 this time and see what happens. These 2 wheels are really just for a person needing 1970 rims. Since they are unique to the Z/28s and SS Chevelles of that year. Thats why I thought about ebay. Live and learn, or just keep banging your head against the wall. Sooner or later 1 will win. :lol:

[hammertime]

I listed a car for my girlfriend on ebay last night got a buy it now.. ended up being a scam deal offering me a western union money order for several thousand. I couldnt bieleve this stuff has moved to ebay now ! They gave me my listing fees back so I could relist at no extra cost.

[lively]

THAT IS WHY I NEVER DO BUY IT NOW ON EBAY :x :x -----TOO MANY IDIOTS FLOATING AROUND ANYMORE :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: -MAKE THEM BID IT IN OR THEY CAN CONTACT YOU AND BRING THERE CASH WITH THEM TO PICK IT UP :wink: :wink: --LIVELY

[Tod74]

I finally sent back his money and I have my wheel. He had already gave me + feedback the day after he paid for it. :lol: I'm sure he can not read as you have send how his spelling is. I guess I'm back at square 1 as the other guy backed out of the other wheel auction too. So Ebay, got paid for me selling these and I still have them both and less money. I will always run future auctions with a clause that no one under 15+ feedbacks need bid, or I'll cancel their bids. This sucked the big 1. But it's done now, I hope.

I don't see the point of the no bidders without 15 + can bid? If everyone did that nobody would ever get to 15.I have seen many people on there with hundreds of positive...and many many negative as well...the negative is what I would be concerned with. Many people do not do that many transactions on ebay but go there when they can't find what they need somewhere else...I only have 16 all positive, but three or 4 people never left feedback good or bad when I know the items were exactly as advertised just some people are too lazy or inconsiderate to leave the feedback, even though it is left for them. Negative fb is one thing...not having any or very much is not the same as having negative. Just cause that dude was an idiot don't make all new ebayers idiots/ a-holes

JMO

[insane4fbodys]

Sorry that got to you Tod. I have always let 0 feedback bidders bid in the past, just because everyone has to start there. But I have seen a lot of, if you have 5, 10, 15 or under contact me before you bid clause's. I may go that route. I wouldn't do everyone in over this 1, but over the last year I have had at least 7 "0-7" feedback bidders never follow through. This 1 actually paid and then became a jerk. I guess I'm just upset that it cost me to not sell anything. And his last email says he's going to contact ebay to tell them what a sorry person I am. :lol: I told him go ahead, as he's the 1 without anything but his loud mouth to stand on. I never wrote 1 ill word to him the whole time. Maybe I need to have a list of the deadbeats and just cancel their bids. Anyway sorry that came across wrong for you.

[zipper06]

Sorry that got to you Tod. I have always let 0 feedback bidders bid in the past, just because everyone has to start there. But I have seen a lot of, if you have 5, 10, 15 or under contact me before you bid clause's. I may go that route. I wouldn't do everyone in over this 1, but over the last year I have had at least 7 "0-7" feedback bidders never follow through. This 1 actually paid and then became a jerk. I guess I'm just upset that it cost me to not sell anything. And his last email says he's going to contact ebay to tell them what a sorry person I am. :lol: I told him go ahead, as he's the 1 without anything but his loud mouth to stand on. I never wrote 1 ill word to him the whole time. Maybe I need to have a list of the deadbeats and just cancel their bids. Anyway sorry that came across wrong for you.

I have to agree with Tod on this, i too have a 100% feed back on Ebay (only 34* BUT)(zipper050_3) I think the better way to list is NOTE! people with (0) feed back contact seller before bidding, another thing that's been happening with a lot of ebay sellers is, they state you must have a registered/certified paypal account/address that they will ship to. In my opinion this is good if you are a high end seller. You may not sell as much but you will have less problems in the end. I've had a paypal account for 7 yrs. and only one none shipper. If i list a car i ask for the down payment thru paypal and the bal. in certified or cash funds within 10 days or at pickup.

I'm more afraid of a seller listing something with (0) feed back than a buyer with (0) feed back.

JMO

Zip.

[Tod74]

Sorry that got to you Tod. I have always let 0 feedback bidders bid in the past, just because everyone has to start there. But I have seen a lot of, if you have 5, 10, 15 or under contact me before you bid clause's. I may go that route. I wouldn't do everyone in over this 1, but over the last year I have had at least 7 "0-7" feedback bidders never follow through. This 1 actually paid and then became a jerk. I guess I'm just upset that it cost me to not sell anything. And his last email says he's going to contact ebay to tell them what a sorry person I am. :lol: I told him go ahead, as he's the 1 without anything but his loud mouth to stand on. I never wrote 1 ill word to him the whole time. Maybe I need to have a list of the deadbeats and just cancel their bids. Anyway sorry that came across wrong for you.

I have to agree with Tod on this, i too have a 100% feed back on Ebay (only 34* BUT)(zipper050_3) I think the better way to list is NOTE! people with (0) feed back contact seller before bidding, another thing that's been happening with a lot of ebay sellers is, they state you must have a registered/certified paypal account/address that they will ship to. In my opinion this is good if you are a high end seller. You may not sell as much but you will have less problems in the end. I've had a paypal account for 7 yrs. and only one none shipper. If i list a car i ask for the down payment thru paypal and the bal. in certified or cash funds within 10 days or at pickup.

I'm more afraid of a seller listing something with (0) feed back than a buyer with (0) feed back.

JMO

Zip.

It didn't upset me :D ...I was just pointing out that everyone starts somewhere....I have seen those clauses also about contacting before bidding...
.I( Todj74) have canceled a guys bid one time. Last summer I sold a brand new 1178 302 Chevy crank that had never been in a motor...It was purchased new at Chevrolet Dealer years ago for a USAC sprint car motor and before it was used the rules were changed to allow 355 ci (I think) so it was never installed. My Father had it rat holed all these years hoping to someday build a 302...Anyway he ended up giving it to me and I sold it for $ 903 and some change . One guy was out bidding several guys..every time they bid more so did he...well I looked at his feedback and it was set to "Private" :shock: That concerned me...what was he hiding? I messaged him and asked him why his feedback was private and told him I wanted to check it...he never responded so I ended up cancelling his bid cause I was afraid he would be a Non Paying Bidder...and I needed the money badly at the time, and didn't want to have to relist and wait another week.

I don't blame you for being sore at that guy that would tic me off too.

[insane4fbodys]

The guy got his money back and sent a email back saying that we was both wrong in this deal, and that money was short because he's going back to school. Going to be a lawyer, hmmm. Don't walk but run Forrest run! Was ready to sue me because he couldn't read.I was just pissed that not only did I pay for the auctions on these but got to pay Ebay the extra from what they sold for. And I still have both rims. I'm to lazy to write a clause in any of my ads, but I will do as you did, if I smell something fishy. Anyway if I can help anyone out with a very deceptive ad, please contact me :shock: :lol: :lol: .

[lively]

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :twisted: :twisted: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

[olds48]

:lol: :lol:

[Tod74]

The guy got his money back and sent a email back saying that we was both wrong in this deal, and that money was short because he's going back to school. Going to be a lawyer, hmmm. Don't walk but run Forrest run! Was ready to sue me because he couldn't read.I was just pissed that not only did I pay for the auctions on these but got to pay Ebay the extra from what they sold for. And I still have both rims. I'm to lazy to write a clause in any of my ads, but I will do as you did, if I smell something fishy. Anyway if I can help anyone out with a very deceptive ad, please contact me :shock: :lol: :lol: .

I hope that guy doesn't buy any parts from Ron Owens...Ron will end up in court once Ol' Perry Mason there finds out that the blonde chic doesn't go with the parts...even though she is in the picture.

[hammertime]

The guy got his money back and sent a email back saying that we was both wrong in this deal, and that money was short because he's going back to school. Going to be a lawyer, hmmm. Don't walk but run Forrest run! Was ready to sue me because he couldn't read.I was just pissed that not only did I pay for the auctions on these but got to pay Ebay the extra from what they sold for. And I still have both rims. I'm to lazy to write a clause in any of my ads, but I will do as you did, if I smell something fishy. Anyway if I can help anyone out with a very deceptive ad, please contact me :shock: :lol: :lol: .

get on ebay live and tell them the situation and I am sure they'd give you your money back.

[Scorpion1110]

Did you guys know that if you offer paypal, and are selling a car then you can make the buy-it-now contingent on a $500 deposit? I am sure everyone does.

With regard to zero feedback bidders-let them bid. If they do, send them an email requesting name/address/phone number. If they respond then they are legit.

However if they dont- go into block bidder and add them. This way your auction gets credit for the bid which helps in getting to your reserve or getting the price right, and by blocking them they cannot future bid. Doesnt filter out all the bad guys but it allows you to use them for a change.

Also, if they are legit and did not respond to your request for personal info, you will usually hear from them when they try and up a bid and can't.

Last resort is wait till the end of the suction and then cancel their bids if you think its a scam.

later