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qtrmile2
03-07-2008, 02:38 PM
Thinking about installing a single adjustable wheelie bar on my Camaro. You guys have any opinion on running a single or double wheelie bar.
Just thought I'd try the single bar. I have to do something because I'm concerned about scrapping the rear bumper before long.

bjuice
03-07-2008, 03:50 PM
Vince Tosto...said the big "W"word......i can't believe it...was Todd right when he called you an old man....lol....just kidding Vince....

i had to take this shot,,,cause you Tosto guys are known for PRETTY wheel stands,No Wheelie bars with a stick...and still competitive...

i can't tell you personally the difference..i do know that Scotty Cannon had a BIG hand in developing this Mono type wheelie bar.....all i can say is they must work well for tthis high hp cars to run them..

Good Luck...

Brian

qtrmile2
03-07-2008, 04:19 PM
Vince Tosto...said the big "W"word......i can't believe it...was Todd right when he called you an old man....lol....just kidding Vince....

i had to take this shot,,,cause you Tosto guys are known for PRETTY wheel stands,No Wheelie bars with a stick...and still competitive...

i can't tell you personally the difference..i do know that Scotty Cannon had a BIG hand in developing this Mono type wheelie bar.....all i can say is they must work well for tthis high hp cars to run them..

Good Luck...

Brian

I know Brian. I can't believe I said that W word either but I'm getting old and maybe wiser in my old age. I took off about 45 to 55 lbs maybe more by putting light weight disc brake set up on the front of the Camaro this winter. I'm thinking once the car goes up that high you no longer can control it. I'm looking to retire soon so I need all the money I can for when I retire.
I figure I don't need to spend my money on front end parts when it finally decides to come down.
From what I heard the mono type is the way to go. I'm just wanting to control the wheelies and install the best bar. I can only dream about having as much HP as Scotty. But your right it worked very well on Scotty's car. I'm leaning towards the mono set up.
Thanks

rsrsfishslayers
03-07-2008, 05:22 PM
Vince you know I wish I had your problems. I think Todd runs bars right, I would think it would better to have two to make it more stable. It would seem that the if you had the one you would tend to tilt from one side to the other but I see a lot of fast cars running them.
CPT.RON :P :P :P
just one wheel stand before I go thats my goal in life

lively
03-07-2008, 07:24 PM
I HAVE SEEN ONE BAR LET THE CAR GET TWISTED TOO FAR---GO WITH THE DUAL SETUP AND ATLEAST YOU SHOULD STAY STAIGHTER--ONLY REMEMBER THAT IF YOU DEPEND ON THE BARS AND SOMETHING GIVES OUT ON THEM -YOU ARE IN FOR ONE SCARY RIDE---I WILL MOUNT MINE ON THE MY REAR BUMPER OF MY RANCHERO!!--IF I GET THAT HIGH UP I WILL JUST HANG ON FOR THE SCARIEST RIDE OF MY LIFE :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: --LIVELY IN ILLINOIS

hoots5secstang
03-07-2008, 07:40 PM
i have a 32 spitzer altered i have ran both with the duel bars you have to make sure the height on both wheels are the same if not the one that hits first will drive the car while it is off the ground. with a single dead in the center car will go much straighter. thats my experience my car has 1.1160ft off the ground 5.10 1/8tm mile

qtrmile2
03-08-2008, 03:11 PM
Thanks for your opinion guys. Todd doesn't have bars on his Firebird either but Tim was running the double bars on his Orange Camaro.

Guess I had this post in the wrong spot HUH!!!!!!!!!
OH WELL.

bjuice
03-10-2008, 06:58 AM
Don't feel bad Vince...My 63 vette vid got moved to....LOL....No big deal here either......

:D

qtrmile2
03-10-2008, 04:30 PM
Don't feel bad Vince...My 63 vette vid got moved to....LOL....No big deal here either......

:D

Where is it Brian I wanted to see that.

bjuice
03-11-2008, 07:08 AM
http://forums.racingjunk.com/viewtopic.php?t=5888


it is now in Show off.....hope you can open it.

thanks

zipper06
03-12-2008, 11:29 PM
Thinking about installing a single adjustable wheelie bar on my Camaro. You guys have any opinion on running a single or double wheelie bar.
Just thought I'd try the single bar. I have to do something because I'm concerned about scrapping the rear bumper before long.

I don't know if it would make a difference. But don't you think if it would the ProStock guys would be going that way??
The first time i ever saw the mono was in 1990 at the Phx. nationals and a blown alcohol car owned and driven by a guy in Onterio Ca. who at the time built zoomie headers and kits for a living, running low 6's. I donot remember his name.
I wouldn't worry about the bumper, when i went to alcohol my Malibu would stand straigt up, i put duel wheelie bars on it to control it. One nite i raised the wheelie bars and made a pass i now have (2) 1 1/4" cuts in my glass bumper from the wheelie bar wheels about 1/4" deep, HeHe show and tell :P

Zip.

PartyTimeRacing
03-16-2008, 04:20 PM
When you're in Rome you do as the Romans do. Unless you are running the car in Pro-Modified, I'd stick with the traditional double setup.

I have yet to see even a Top Sportsman car with a single wheelie bar setup and many of these cars are in the sixes.

edvancedengines
03-18-2008, 12:51 AM
Eiter can have benefits and disadvantages if built right and are strong but can still flex.

As stated with this post
i have a 32 spitzer altered i have ran both with the duel bars you have to make sure the height on both wheels are the same if not the one that hits first will drive the car while it is off the ground. with a single dead in the center car will go much straighter. thats my experience my car has 1.1160ft off the ground 5.10 1/8tm mile

That is partially correct. A double roller wheelie bar setup can definetly steer you. In most High Horsepowered cars You Do Not Want the rollers to be an even distance from the ground. Usually you set up the left side to be a little higher becuase if it is the same ht from the ground it will usually hit first and will unload the left rear tire enough to move you to the left.

IF your car is slamming the wheelie bars down you need suspension tuning, no matter what kind of car it is. Wheelie bars can be a suspension tuning aid if you are touching on them as you should be. They are definetly a safety device and should be on any car that will pick them up.

The single Mono Wheel if built right will not steer the car and when at rest can be moved slightly side to side for some flexibility. They do work very well in a well behaved car.

If the car is unrully and crashing wheelie bars hard to the track, there is no wheelie bar that will not fold with enough force on it.

I have a customer who has crashed and trashed three sets of wheelie bars of both kinds last year. The last wheelie bars they trashed the car had all 4 tires in the air and the broken wheelie bars was the only thing touching the track. I wish someone had taken a pic or vid of that. I was told by several who were watching it. They don't just trash wheelie bars, they get violent tire shake and break expensive parts like racing trannies etc. The heck of it all is I know I can make the car work. The guys in the chassis shops who have tweekd on it, can't.

The longer bars are more forgiving but you need to have the rollers higher off the track. I think I still prefer the two rollers.

Ed