bad cam

[bbc28racing]

i have a 454 and all my lifters stuck,so i put new ones in and ran one race and there already weak.when you ajust them the motor bogs down before the rockers stop rattling but.any ideas?thanks

[a13badazztoys]

Stuck?? what do you mean by stuck? :shock: siezed up ?? the engine should bog down a little when you adjust your hydrolic cam and its a little to far out of adjustment .. I assume hydrolic since you stated till the rockers stop rattling... any more info ?? solid cam ? roller ? cam lobes wiped out ?

[bbc28racing]

seized yes springs inside froze and quit oiling kindof like if the were solids,and new ones work good but now are starting to do it too the motor starts popping not loud popping like times too high and laboring almost dieing.can't set past .004 with feeler gauge hydrolic cam 490 like stock cam all stock lobes rockers and springs look good .maybe cams qround wrong :?: can't figure it out.help any?thanks

[olds48]

Do you have roller rockers?They will always make a little rattling noise.Are you pushrods okay?Best way to set valves is with engine warm but not running.Get the valve your adjusting completely closed to the head,then tighten the nut untilyou just barely get rid of all your slack.Then put 1-1.5 turns of preload on it and walk away.

[bbc28racing]

no rollors,push rods are good.that' how i usually ajust by bumping up the valves but it wont run.u can't even go a 1/4 a turn if u do it one at a time or the motor starts to die.tried it hot cold running not running .what could it be??thanks

[olds48]

Did you put the cam in yourself?Is it a possibility that you got the timing set out of time,like one tooth off.I did that once,it sucked.I learned to slow down :D

[bbc28racing]

that makes sense,definety will check it.thanks

[olds48]

Can't think of anything else off the top of my head. Let us know what you find

[SST4530]

I thnik 1 1/2 turns is to much on the lifter adjustment. 1/2 to 3/4 turn should be plenty to put plunger in center of lifter.

[bbc28racing]

yes but,i can't even turn them a 1/4 it won't run if i go 1/2 usually would set on tight 1/4

[olds48]

Maybe your pushrod bearings are bad????? :shock: :lol: :lol:

[bbc28racing]

no there good.that wouldn't make it do this,plus it would knock.any more ideas?

[bjuice]

was your lifter bores trued before engine was assembled ?

[signsbyesa]

man the limited amount of turn on adjusting almost sounds like the
wrong lifters or bores checked for ware, yea, would like to know
the findings, valve train, interesting

[bbc28racing]

i pulled out cam and lifters and 9 of the new lifters were froze like the old ones.all the new lifters worked good at first.it was in time the cam lobes were all good but about five were alittle bigger or smaller.i'm talking like a couple sheets of paper may supposed to be??i don't know!!

[us7race]

Is it oiling good? Seems like the lifters getting stuck and wearing out real quick could be caused by lack of oil then Heat. Just an idea..

[bbc28racing]

the first set didn't oil the second set did at first and started quitting 2

[bjuice]

Not to sound like a a-hole by no means..
but my suggestion it take the bulltet out and have someone look at it that knows what they are doing..

no offense toward you by no means

[bbc28racing]

not to sound like a a-hole either but i run a garage and build race cars and it a distributer.but it's not bad all the time i checked it yesterday and it was firing good now its not.and the cam had a couple of lobes that were grond wrong.but still pops putting in new dist.will post results.thanks eveybody

[SST4530]

Not to sound like a a-hole by no means..
but my suggestion it take the bulltet out and have someone look at it that knows what they are doing..

no offense toward you by no means

:idea:

How's the muffler bearing?

[bbc28racing]

i don't know what your problem is?i didn't ask for smart remarks.and to recall[no offence to bjuice] every mechanic here has looked at my car. and i found it was a wiring problem,dist. and a bad cam.thanks every one

[shortyems3307]

you know i don't think anybody on here has given you smart remarks . and i don't think any mechanic on here has looked at your car. everybody has tried to give you advice based on your discription of the problem. brian gave you a logical suggestion to your unique problem without trying to be rude.your reply was a little defencive "not to sound like an a--hole i run a garage and build race cars". relax big guy . it's hard to diagnois a problem like this with out being there with hands on. you should know how it is running a garage and building race care in all. i can't figure out how a wireing problem, a bad distributor, and a bad ground cam could seize up 9 + lifters twice? who's cam and lifters are they? there tech dept. should probably know about your problem with there product. no offence towards you.

[Tod74]

you know i don't think anybody on here has given you smart remarks . .



I think he was talking about this.

JMO






How's the muffler bearing?

[lively]

I JUST REPLACED THE MUFFLER BEARING ON MY DUAL EXHAUST :shock: :shock: ---IT RUNS ALOT SMOOTHER NOW :? :? AND LATER I AM PAINTING MY EXHAUST WITH TEFLON PAINT INSIDE AND OUT--IT WILL PROBABLY GAIN ATLEAST 60 HORSES :? :? :? ---IS THAT A SMART REMARK OR JUST HAVING FUN???-----GROW UP AND RELIZE JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE A MECHANIC AND BUILD RACE CARS DOES NOT MEAN YOU DO NOT MAKE MISTAKES OR YOU CAN'T LEARN ANYTHING NEW!!!!!!!!--------LIVELY[ I HAVE BUILT FOR OVER 35 YEARS AND STILL LEARNING] :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[bbc28racing]

tod74 yes that's what i was talking about,thanks.and i ment mechs.in this area.and i did not mean any offence to anyone was just trying to figure out my problem.and i thank every one who helped me.and how a dist. and cam seizes lifters and kills plugs i don't know but it did.thanks

[Tod74]

I JUST REPLACED THE MUFFLER BEARING ON MY DUAL EXHAUST :shock: :shock: ---IT RUNS ALOT SMOOTHER NOW :? :? AND LATER I AM PAINTING MY EXHAUST WITH TEFLON PAINT INSIDE AND OUT--IT WILL PROBABLY GAIN ATLEAST 60 HORSES :? :? :? ---IS THAT A SMART REMARK OR JUST HAVING FUN???-----GROW UP AND RELIZE JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE A MECHANIC AND BUILD RACE CARS DOES NOT MEAN YOU DO NOT MAKE MISTAKES OR YOU CAN'T LEARN ANYTHING NEW!!!!!!!!--------LIVELY[ I HAVE BUILT FOR OVER 35 YEARS AND STILL LEARNING] :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Joking aside...How ya coming along on your Ranchero?

[bbc28racing]

lively,i neversaid i knew everything.that's why i'm asking advice.i'm only in my 20's so i have a lot to learn.and i didn't realize you were joking.

[suicidebomb]

The block doesn*t have oil restrictors in it does it? Do they even use them in big blocks? somebody straighten me out!

[bbc28racing]

no oil restictors,atleast not in my motor.i think maybe just got a bad set of lifters.these are doing good so far but i haven't raced with them yet.

[SST4530]

you know i don't think anybody on here has given you smart remarks . .



I think he was talking about this.

JMO






How's the muffler bearing?

It's funny, nobody seemed to catch the one about pushrod bearings! When's the last time anyone changed a set of those? :lol:

I think we need to lighten up a little, don't you? If you can't have some fun on here then what's the point? Especially when the symptoms and problem descriptions don't go hand in hand.

[olds48]

Oh,yeah.Get me invovled,why don't ya :roll: :lol: :lol:

[Tod74]

you know i don't think anybody on here has given you smart remarks . .



I think he was talking about this.

JMO






How's the muffler bearing?

It's funny, nobody seemed to catch the one about pushrod bearings! When's the last time anyone changed a set of those? :lol:

I think we need to lighten up a little, don't you? If you can't have some fun on here then what's the point? Especially when the symptoms and problem descriptions don't go hand in hand.


I caught it... :D I try to have fun but I got warned for being a wise guy so I toned it down. But I was warned because it was the scammer forum I made a couple wise cracks in and a mod thought maybe those who were scammed would not appreciate it...and He was probably right so I deleted them. Didn't mean to cause problems.

[olds48]

Yeah,I've had people jump my case for being a smart a$$,too.Just ignore it,bud.HAVE FUN

[lively]

Yeah,I've had people jump my case for being a smart a$$,too.Just ignore it,bud.HAVE FUN

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[SST4530]

Oh,yeah.Get me invovled,why don't ya :roll: :lol: :lol:

I didn't say who said it, but since your telling on yourself :wink: :lol:

[bbc28racing]

sorry guys,my car has just got me on edge.

[olds48]

Yeah,I'm bad about ratting myself out.Oh,well :D

[SST4530]

sorry guys,my car has just got me on edge.

No worries, sounds like you could have multiple issues from your most recent description. Really shouldn't be that difficult to correct, it's just difficult to give advice about how to repair thses kinds of issues, especially if there are some real mechanical issues that need correcting before you can move on to the next problem.

I can tell you that the distributor will absolutely not cause the lifters to seize. Not sure what modifications you've made other than cam. But if you put a performance cam with any decent amount of lift in your BBC, do not run the stock valve spring or you will flatten the cam lobes. Be sure the top end is oiling properly. What type of cam, lifters, and Valve springs did you use?

Bill

[Tod74]

i have a 454 and all my lifters stuck,so i put new ones in and ran one race and there already weak.when you ajust them the motor bogs down before the rockers stop rattling but.any ideas?thanks

If that thing is a hydraulic cam just preload the lifters with the engine off. Some may disagree but oh well.... I always did it that way and no problems. Just tighten the nut while spinning/ wiggling the pushrod between your fingers until the lash is gone then go a half turn. You will get many different opinions on how far to go...some say quarter..some say half turn...some 3/4 etc. I have even seen a book that said 1 full turn.( too much I think) You just need to center the plunger in the lifter.

No way would I put up with the mess of oil spraying everywhere trying to run the valves with the valve cover off.

JMO... take it for what it's worth.

[maxpower671]

ditto what Tod74 said. i've had good luck doing exactly as he says. even with it idling its not too bad but gets messy if revved up..

[olds48]

I ditto Tod,too.No sense in starting a motor until AFTER you set the valves

[SST4530]

With all the issues he's been having, I wonder if he's in fact getting hyd. lifters. Solid, or Rhodes type maybe? :?:

[bbc28racing]

there lunati hyd. and you have to set big blocks on 0 valve lash.and my rocker arms and nuts were bad.

[Tod74]

there lunati hyd. and you have to set big blocks on 0 valve lash.and my rocker arms and nuts were bad.

:? Big block or small block, A hydraulic lifter is a hydr.....nevermind.

Glad you got it figured out. :)

[jmtire]

hey lively I,ve got muffler bearings on sale this week at my muffler shop HA-HA :lol: :lol:

[lively]

hey lively I,ve got muffler bearings on sale this week at my muffler shop HA-HA :lol: :lol:
HEY--CAN I GET THOSE IN 2 1/2 " SIZE :lol: :lol: :lol:

[jmtire]

Yes but the 3" are a better buy!! :lol: :lol:

[jmtire]

Lively , I only take american dollars, not ching ,ying pacos, oops-- better stop, starting to sound like Bob Frey. Of course it don't take to much to get a redneck going!!!

[SST4530]

Lively , I only take american dollars, not ching ,ying pacos, oops-- better stop, starting to sound like Bob Frey. Of course it don't take to much to get a redneck going!!!

I need some of the 3" hydraulic for a BBC. Going to send them to bbc28racing, to help him fix his. :lol: :wink:

[SST4530]

there lunati hyd. and you have to set big blocks on 0 valve lash.and my rocker arms and nuts were bad.

:roll: Dude, Hyd lifters do not not set at zero lash. Doesn't matter if your nuts and rockers were bad or not.

But good luck with that!

[olds48]

This has been a very .....interesting thread.

[Tod74]

there lunati hyd. and you have to set big blocks on 0 valve lash.and my rocker arms and nuts were bad.

:roll: Dude, Hyd lifters do not not set at zero lash. Doesn't matter if your nuts and rockers were bad or not.

But good luck with that!

Maybe he was trying to hold the valves open to bleed off compression to combat detonation.... :P

[maxpower671]

heard detonation is a bad thing? man, this thread has been a stinker..

[bbc28racing]

remember,this is a big block.you cannot turn them a quarter or half round like a small block.the motor will detonate!!

[Tod74]

remember,this is a big block.you cannot turn them a quarter or half round like a small block.the motor will detonate!!

I think you are trolling....no offense.

[bbc28racing]

no,i'm not trolling.i think it's the other way around....no offence And i had great luck with setting the valve lash on 0.

[performanceengin]

for any hydrolic lifter to function properly they need .040 preload on plunger. that is where 1/2 to 3/4 turn comes in to play.

[bbc28racing]

if it's stock it will work.or on a small block.just ask a big block company.or ect.like brodix,or dart(there also small block)or some big machine shops.on a big block the lifters build up more when you rev them up,so if there 1/4 or 1/2 turn it will be like 1 1/2 or something when racing.also roller rockers and poly locks or hex locks are important.

[olds48]

seized yes springs inside froze and quit oiling kindof like if the were solids,and new ones work good but now are starting to do it too the motor starts popping not loud popping like times too high and laboring almost dieing.can't set past .004 with feeler gauge hydrolic cam 490 like stock cam all stock lobes rockers and springs look good .maybe cams qround wrong :?: can't figure it out.help any?thanks

[olds48]

no,i'm not trolling.i think it's the other way around....no offence And i had great luck with setting the valve lash on 0.

[Tod74]

And i had great luck with setting the valve lash on 0.


:shock:


seized yes springs inside froze and quit oiling kindof like if the were solids,and new ones work good but now are starting to do it too the motor starts popping not loud popping like times too high and laboring almost dieing.can't set past .004 with feeler gauge hydrolic cam 490 like stock cam all stock lobes rockers and springs look good .maybe cams qround wrong :?: can't figure it out.help any?thanks[/quote]


i have a 454 and all my lifters stuck,so i put new ones in and ran one race and there already weak.when you ajust them the motor bogs down before the rockers stop rattling but.any ideas?thanks

i pulled out cam and lifters and 9 of the new lifters were froze like the old ones.all the new lifters worked good at first.it was in time the cam lobes were all good but about five were alittle bigger or smaller.i'm talking like a couple sheets of paper may supposed to be??i don't know!!

the first set didn't oil the second set did at first and started quitting 2

i have a prob. with frozen lifters.i'm not sure if these froze but the last two sets have.i went to practice tonight and it blowed out the oil stick,which happened last year and i kept racing so it burt a hole in the piston last year,and the rocker ams arm a little loose[same problem as last post]everything is new in motor.it also kills plugs.i think somthing is wrong in the heads,anyone have a idea.thanks

[bbc28racing]

um,??problem?the cam,rockers and nuts were bad and the rockers were kicking sideways which made the push rods freeze the lifters(aslo bad dist.).runs great so far.thanks for help

[gimmemud]

Bet your parts supplier LOVES you.$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 8)

[bbc28racing]

all i bought new was the cam and lifters(on this subject),but that was enough.got the rest from racing shops,and ect.always good to have friends

[suicidebomb]

Amazing :shock:

[Tod74]

I say the control arm bushings are probably what caused all this....if you are gona run a Ratt you have to have big block control arm bushings.

[suicidebomb]

Yep....And you*ll need a billingham-langston ganglia wrench in order to install those new bushings! Don*t forget the philpott extension, and those bushings, will need to be milled .025 over-all more than any other place.

[itsabird]

then you have to magnaflux the whole deal.

[lively]

AND WE ALLLLLLLLLLLL NEED A SHRINK!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

[crazyone]

if you have the cam out--check to see if one of the bushings isn't lined up with the oil passage in the block---or something in the passage could be restricting the flow--it has happened on a freshly hot tanked block --it just wasn't flushed out real good

[zipper06]

Doesn't matter, B/BLK,S/BLK the lifters are the same size, there's .100 travel in the piston on the lifters. The only difference is if you have 3/8" studs or 7/16" studs. 3/8 1 turn equels .050, 7/16X20 equels 1 1/4 turns. Set it in the middle and go from there. But it really sounds like you have an oiling problem.

JMO

Zip.

[harleym]

Can't belive I just read all them posts. I would like to add some info but this thread is far two technical for me.

A hydraulic lifter whether in small or big block chevy adjusts the same. zero plus ½ to 1 turn. Anywhere close will work but may not perform as it could.
Now I think the pushrods are too long causing the plunger to bottom out siezing the springs. :lol:

[suicidebomb]

Can't belive I just read all them posts. I would like to add some info but this thread is far two technical for me.

A hydraulic lifter whether in small or big block chevy adjusts the same. zero plus ½ to 1 turn. Anywhere close will work but may not perform as it could.
Now I think the pushrods are too long causing the plunger to bottom out siezing the springs. :lol:
Its not really all that technical, the billingham-langston ganglia wrench is quite easy to master, its the philpott extension that complicates things. :)

[lively]

THAT IS VERY TRUE 8) 8) --ESPECILLY THE LEFT HANDED ONE!!

[cepx111]

This thread needs to be deleted, its not helping anybody at this point. this person was asking for help and obviously needs help. It is the object of this forum to help indivuials that are in need wether they know what they are talking about or not.
JMO Charles

[gimmemud]

Thats the amusing part, he was getting good advise but just ignoring all of it, why ask for advice if your going to ignore it. :roll:

[itsabird]

Thats the amusing part, he was getting good advise but just ignoring all of it, why ask for advice if your going to ignore it. :roll: right you are :wink:

[cepx111]

Thats the amusing part, he was getting good advise but just ignoring all of it, why ask for advice if your going to ignore it. :roll: True, but heckling him and poking fun at his ignorance doesn't make it a productive thread.....

There is plenty of room for humoring and joking around in " In the pits" section of this forum without offending anyone's intelligence. Again JMO
Charles

[suicidebomb]

Thats the amusing part, he was getting good advise but just ignoring all of it, why ask for advice if your going to ignore it. :roll: True, but heckling him and poking fun at his ignorance doesn't make it a productive thread.....

There is plenty of room for humoring and joking around in " In the pits" section of this forum without offending anyone's intelligence. Again JMO
Charles
Jeeeminy Charles, have you read this whole thing? This thing stopped being productive 4 or 5 pages ago! We all tried to help the guy, no ones even mentioned ignorance till now! If i insulted your intelligence I truly apologize, but you need to lighten up. Most of us take our humor, where we can find it! The guy says he has a shop(business?), if so then he knows how to adjust hydraulic lifters, if not, he needs to find a new line work! JMO, I think he was trolling for aggravation, and caught his limit. Let me add, that that he also knows his lifters aren*t oiling, And it ain*t because of his distributer, wiring, heads, or a bad cam. I*M more than happy to apologize to anyone I offended, but I*LL be go to He@^ if I*LL delete it!

[olds48]

I'm with Charles.Guy might not agree with us,but it's not our place to ridicule him.Starting to go too far now.Time to grow up.

[suicidebomb]

Maybe your pushrod bearings are bad????? :shock: :lol: :lol:

[suicidebomb]

Yeah,I've had people jump my case for being a smart a$$,too.Just ignore it,bud.HAVE FUN

[olds48]

Got something to say???Spit it out! :D I never said I didn't joke around with the guy.But some of the things said were "ridicule" ,not poking fun.

[SST4530]

You know, I always reply to everyone with the intent of providing as much accurate, and responsible advice as possible. When a guy keeps rejecting the information he's getting and insist's on telling me something I know is BS then I'm pretty much done. If it continues, the next step is poking fun and if a guy can't tell the difference between a Troll and a legitimate racer with an issue then God help you.

I'm saving my time and advice for someone who really needs the help!

Bill

[Tod74]

That's what I said...I think he was trolling for laughs...

[suicidebomb]

Do I have somthing I want to say, you bet. First off, Iwanna make it clear that I have a great deal of respect for both cepx111 & olds48. With that said...cepx111 wanted my post deleted, I took exception to it! And since olds48 has decided to take up his banner, I assume that he wants it deleted also. Well gentlemen, if yall expect ME to do it, get set for dissappointment, aint gonna happen! I agree that its been an unproductive post( thread) whatever. It ain*t the jokers fault! Biggest waste of time on the forum, except maybe for the great, My dog is bigger than your dog debate. Ridicule:Webster says it*s the making one the object of contemptuous laughter. Jmo sometimes you gotta poke fun of someone to make them see the error of their ways. Is that ridicule, Nawww! Now, mechanics have a natural talent for dissipation, so they*re not going to quit joking, yall are gonna have to get used to that! Now, I dont claim to be a mechanic, but I*ve had the training, And the government says I am. Was it an insult to peoples intelligence, you bet! right from the first word typed.Time to grow up: I*ve been grown up, bought a couple a houses, raised some kids, bought an absurd # of cars and trucks, been to PTA meetings, done all that grown up junk!!! hell I even quit drinkin, much to the relief of my wife i might add. I*m fed up with it! I*m going fishin, & huntin, & playing with cars & hopefully, my grandkids. I might just piss some people for the fun of it. JMO I think we should get together for some fancy lying, and bench racing. My car is so fast, you gotta get a photo yesterday! Oh, one more thing, I have decided that the philpott extension is now adjustable & double reversable. Well there you go, I spit it out.Now,I must return to my irresponsibilities. Always remember, no matter where you go, there you are! :lol:

[Tod74]

I didn't read Charles's post as an attack on any one certain post by any particular person. I think he was just saying the whole thread in general. I am guilty as anyone of poking fun at this thread but he is right. ..I am surprised a moderator hasn't stopped us before now to be honest. This board has never been about cutting other people down...it is about racers helping other racers and everyone learning from each other...if it were I would be cut to shreds cause there is waaay more knowledgeable people here than me.
I think that's all he was getting at. He wasn't singleing anyone out.

JMO

[suicidebomb]

I didn't read Charles's post as an attack on any one certain post by any particular person. I think he was just saying the whole thread in general. I am guilty as anyone of poking fun at this thread but he is right. ..I am surprised a moderator hasn't stopped us before now to be honest. This board has never been about cutting other people down...it is about racers helping other racers and everyone learning from each other...if it were I would be cut to shreds cause there is waaay more knowledgeable people here than me.
I think that's all he was getting at. He wasn't singleing anyone out.

JMO
RIGHT ON Tod74 x2 PEACE! May the win lights, always be in our lanes. May we always come safely home. May the good Lord bless us all!

[olds48]

I'm with Charles.Guy might not agree with us,but it's not our place to ridicule him.Starting to go too far now.Time to grow up.

Hey S-bomb, notice that my post says "OUR place".I have to admit that I started the joking,I just didn't expect it to go this far.

And I believe Tod74 is right about CEPX11.He meant the thread in general.As far as deleting your post...your are free to say what you wish.Voice your opinion,because that is exactly what I plan on doin'.When I asked you to spit it out,I wasn't trying to be a jerk.I just wasn't sure what you were trying to say.But now we know :D All is good ,and I believe he is trolling,too.Looks like he got us on this one :oops:

[bjuice]

For the record..a moderater ( me) has been reading this entire thread (each page).....as a matter of fact i tried to give the guy some good advise MYSELF in the begining only to get turned away and told he was a mechanic...
SO BE IT......

This thread started out as helpful advise but was not taken...the bad part here is that the man kept coming back with outlLandish problems asking for advise only to tell people implied or not he knew what he was doing beacuse he was a mechanic ( so whats the point :?: )

As a mod i have seen nothing SOOO bad that the thread needs to be locked or deleted..and i can do both...

If you come upon a thread that you disagree with...just don't participate at 1st..then if you find it that offensive then report it to me or another mod..just don't expect drastic measures if something is in good faith,gray,borderline...We are a place to help but to also have fun..keep this in mind please.

i can assure you EVERYONE will be treated fairly in every post...orginator or responder...

Just be advised of one main thing..." Dont ask if you are afraid to be told the truth"........there is room here for all.

Now lets all be gentleman and let this lay where it needs to be.

bjuice
Moderator

[olds48]

Good job Bjuice :D

[Tod74]

For the record..a moderater ( me) has been reading this entire thread (each page).....as a matter of fact i tried to give the guy some good advise MYSELF in the begining only to get turned away and told he was a mechanic...
SO BE IT......

This thread started out as helpful advise but was not taken...the bad part here is that the man kept coming back with outlLandish problems asking for advise only to tell people implied or not he knew what he was doing beacuse he was a mechanic ( so whats the point :?: )

As a mod i have seen nothing SOOO bad that the thread needs to be locked or deleted..and i can do both...

If you come upon a thread that you disagree with...just don't participate at 1st..then if you find it that offensive then report it to me or another mod..just don't expect drastic measures if something is in good faith,gray,borderline...We are a place to help but to also have fun..keep this in mind please.

i can assure you EVERYONE will be treated fairly in every post...orginator or responder...

Just be advised of one main thing..." Dont ask if you are afraid to be told the truth"........there is room here for all.

Now lets all be gentleman and let this lay where it needs to be.

bjuice
Moderator

I agree...good post. I get that at work sometimes.. ( I set up cnc tube benders and am in charge of my department so it is my job to help)someone having trouble asks me for help and then wants to debate every suggestion I make...makes me so mad I could spit. I just walk away and let them fight with it.

[olds48]

:lol: :lol: :lol: Don't you just love that,Tod74."Hey,what do you think about this?......nope your wrong" :twisted: :twisted: Why do people like that waste your time.I'm glad I ain't the only one that has to deal with that :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Tod74]

Tell me about it.....and then two hours later I get to fix it...AFTER they "fixed " it..lol

reminds me of a sign my uncle used to have in his garage.

LABOR $20 per hr if I do the work
$40 per hr if you help
$60 per hr if you tried to do it yourself before you came here.

[olds48]

Good sign!!I like that!!!

[itsabird]

good post bjuice, hit the nail on the head.

[suicidebomb]

I got that same sign in my garage, hourly rates are higher....INFLATION.

[jmtire]

S-bomb I thought you we're rrrretired from mechnicing, so your rates should be going down!!!! :lol:

[poncholvr]

i pulled out cam and lifters and 9 of the new lifters were froze like the old ones.all the new lifters worked good at first.it was in time the cam lobes were all good but about five were alittle bigger or smaller.i'm talking like a couple sheets of paper may supposed to be??i don't know!!

i had near new lifters in mine - new cam, rockers push rods,and rockers valves-ect...
ran great for like 20 miles or so then stomped on it hard- 7 lifters became as solids! :evil: -- froze solid- bent 7 push rods 7 valves, and 7rocker nuts
put in new comp lifters never had a prob after that!
so i understand some of what happned to u

[bbc28racing]

that's exactly what happened,it was like solid lifters.when mine froze it wore the cam and bent a valve.and the rockers were wore from no oil (i ran 30 laps)and kept moving side to side and the nuts would back off.a lunati cam and lifters,locking rollor rockers,and a valve done the trick.the dead plugs(oringinal prob.) dist. was bad.thanks for advice