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[mopar1968]

This guy has taken me for a demon carb, can someone tell me how to post all of our messages on this parts trade? ad# 1096959 his name is JR Spano 61406 So third str AS YOU CAN SEE I SENT THIS GUYS CARB BACK TO HIM.

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From: jrlj To: mopar1968 Date: 2008-02-19 21:38:22
Subject: Re: carb
Re: Ad #1096959
Message: went to ship your carb today, $36 priority mail, $24 parcel post, $29 ups, I'm not paying this twice for YOUR mistake, let me know how you want it shhipped, maybe cod.

On [2008-02-18 20:54:32] mopar1968 wrote:
> did you get my carb out today?
>
> On [2008-02-17 11:14:54] jrlj wrote:
> > When I made this deal with you I felt good about it because I wasn't dealing with a kid. My bad. Because someone sold you the wrong thing and you apparently make no effort to identify it, you basically call me a liar. Don't like that. IF you would look on Barry Grant's website you can see each model, IF you look at the dealers ads you can see the the difference, same with Jegs. Because someone else does the same as you doesn't make it so, On top of it being in a bag with part number and a box that says SPEED DEMON. Detectives call this a clue. I am out time and money because you don't know what you have, but some guy told it was this. I assumed you knew the difference. Your carb left your place 5 days after I gave you a #. I will ship your carb back. I already have this exact model.
> >
> > On [2008-02-16 23:48:05] mopar1968 wrote:
> > > You need to ship mine back to me, i need a tracking number monday, i have allready sent yours back, given you a tracking number. i am not trying to be a butthole either, i have done the right thing, but you haven't as of yet!
> > >
> > > On [2008-02-14 21:08:48] jrlj wrote:
> > > > Mark, not trying to be a butthead but I would like to get this resolved quickly. I sent that carb off almost 2 weeks ago. You shipped yours faster, but days later. Really don't want this to drag on for weeks. I turned down 3 other offers after I made a deal with you. Like I said before, the box has the part # and states "speed demon" on it. Let me know. thanx, JR
> > > >
> > > > On [2008-02-14 16:48:51] mopar1968 wrote:
> > > > > i had never owned one before, or ran one, the guy i got it from said it was a mighty demon, i ran it for about 30 minutes and didn't like it, was going to sell it.i went back to my holley. what do you have in mind?
> > > > >
> > > > > On [2008-02-14 14:06:12] jrlj wrote:
> > > > > > Mark, problem, yousaid you had a 750 mighty demon and sent me a speed demon. I did not want a speed demon, I wanted a mighty demon. what now? Jim 541-396-8025
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On [2008-02-06 11:13:45] mopar1968 wrote:
> > > > > > > tracking number is, this is UPS
> > > > > > > 1ZA939F10392773007
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On [2008-02-04 22:01:50] jrlj wrote:
> > > > > > > > Did you get that carb shipped today?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On [2008-02-03 21:39:22] mopar1968 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > lol i will take it out before ship.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On [2008-02-03 20:36:38] jrlj wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > did not send fuel line, if I have one don't know where it is. Keep yours and I'll figure one out. thanx much, JR
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On [2008-02-03 19:57:08] mopar1968 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > be shipping in the morning from work. did you have a fuel line they take a funky one. i am sending one with this carb if you are sending one.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On [2008-02-02 15:43:53] jrlj wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > wife shipped your carb today, usps, tracking is 03060320000207404214 or the last 4 might be 4221, shipped 2 things and she didn't mark the tag, anyway it's on the way. let me know whats up on your end. thanx, JR
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> > > > > > > > > > > > On [2008-02-01 09:11:15] mopar1968 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > send me your address and i will get it to you;
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > mine is
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark arnold
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 20284 alavrado rd
> > > > > > > > > > > > > abingdon virginia 24211
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > no shipping charge to you, i will ship free.
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[topsportsman1]

Do you know how to copy and paste?If so you can copy and paste the messages here

Give us an add number
This guy has no profile

[jrlj]

Please read the post. Guy is an idiot. I don't want his carb and have made it clear. I DO want him to pay for the return shipping because it is his fault he mislead/lied/didn't know/can't read or take your pick. He offered to swap his 750 mighty demon for my 850 mighty demon, I shipped him mine, 5 days later he shipped his. He sent me a speed demon, In the original speed demon bag, part # on bag, in a speed demon box and says "I thought it was a mighty demon" $25 to ship his carb back for his screw up, he can pay it!

[shawnp]

I see a couple things that may have been simple miscommunications base on wording:

> > On [2008-02-16 23:48:05] mopar1968 wrote:
> > > You need to ship mine back to me, i need a tracking number monday, i have allready sent yours back, given you a tracking number. i am not trying to be a butthole either, i have done the right thing, but you haven't as of yet!

The message before this, jrlj asks what next? You had already made the move to ship his back which is the right thing. However, you never told him that is what you are doing and then said he hadn't done the right thing yet!!!. Sounds to me like you were blastung him. You never told him what you were doing before laying out that statement.

I think jrlj made every honest effort to get it resolved. You appear to be impatient in your messages. You come across short with your answers. That is another thing that can create miscommunications

All in all, you have him here as a scammer. I just don't see it. You advertiesed and traded something incorrectly. You did not take the time to ID your part even with all the information you had. I too would want money back for the shipping as it is 100% your error on the part. You both have done the right thing and communicated, but somewhere it was lost. If he is holding the carb for shipping cost, again, I understand. He is not scamming you or not taking you, he simply wants you to correct the mistake completly.

[mopar1968]

No No i have never said he was a scammer!

[shawnp]

This guy has taken me for a demon carb

Is that not saying he scammed you???? Maybe a better choice of words could have been used? This is the point of miscommunication. Make sure that you say what you mean. Say it clearly so there is no way to confuse or mislead your point.

[mopar1968]

Well all i want is my carb back, if i have to pay shipping [COD] fine by me.

[shawnp]

jrlj- Ball is in your court. If he will pay COD, will this carb be shipped back by the end of the week?

[lively]

jrlj- Ball is in your court. If he will pay COD, will this carb be shipped back by the end of the week?

AND THE CLOCK TICS :? :? :? :? TIC-TIC-TIC

[shawnp]

jrlj- Ball is in your court. If he will pay COD, will this carb be shipped back by the end of the week?

AND THE CLOCK TICS :? :? :? :? TIC-TIC-TIC

I sent him a message to see if he will come back here to accept the offer of COD. He would only be out the time it cost to drop it off. If he does not accept the COD, then he is, IMHO, being unreasonable about resolving the problem and moving on.

[mopar1968]

He sent me a message while i was at work, he stated for me to go and get a UPS call tag, mail it to him then maybe send carb, if you read his messages above he stated he didn't want this to drag out, why doesn't he just send it COD from there.He also stated no futher disscusion needed on subject. i have allready sent his tracking # 1za939f10390639059, I have sold,bought,traded parts on here even sold race cars on here, never had a problem untill now,

[jrlj]

Probably never sold a Camaro saying it was a mustang. If I ship cod I have to pay and wait to be reimbersed . Quit putting words in my mouth. I'm about sick of you and your crap. PAY FOR SHIPPING AND I"LL SEND YOU YOUR CARB!!!!! USE UPS!!! IT'S UP TO YOU!!! SEND A CALL TAG, THEY WILL PICK IT UP AND BRING IT TO YOU!!! HOW SIMPLE CAN IT BE???

[lively]

Probably never sold a Camaro saying it was a mustang. If I ship cod I have to pay and wait to be reimbersed . Quit putting words in my mouth. I'm about sick of you and your crap. PAY FOR SHIPPING AND I"LL SEND YOU YOUR CARB!!!!! USE UPS!!! IT'S UP TO YOU!!! SEND A CALL TAG, THEY WILL PICK IT UP AND BRING IT TO YOU!!! HOW SIMPLE CAN IT BE???


shawnp=====THERE IS THE ANSWER---I THINK HE IS NOT WANTING TO SETTLE THIS AND GET IT BEHIND HIM----LIVELY

AND BY THE WAY --DID EITHER OF THESE DEAL MAKERS PAY AN HONOR PAYMENT ON THEIR OTHER DEALS ON RACING JUNK????????????

[mopar1968]

when i sell something i make the honor payment, check my record.

[lively]

when i sell something i make the honor payment, check my record.

THANK YOU--I THOUGHT YOU WERE A STRAIGHT SHOOTER :lol: :lol: ---WE WILL SEE HOW THE OTHER ONE RESPONDS :? :? :? ---LIVELY

[shawnp]

From: jrlj To: mopar1968 Date: 2008-02-19 21:38:22
Subject: Re: carb
Re: Ad #1096959
Message: went to ship your carb today, $36 priority mail, $24 parcel post, $29 ups, I'm not paying this twice for YOUR mistake, let me know how you want it shhipped, maybe cod.

So who put words in your mouth??:? You offered it!!!

When this started, JRLJ you had a leg to stand on. Now you are just plain uncooperative. If he wants the carb back, he has to pay the COD. If he refuses it. You get the carb back. How hard is that?

[mopar1968]

Hey i know this is what i have been talking about,everything i offer he declines.

[lively]

TIC-TIC-TIC- :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

[shawnp]

Has anyone check JRLJ to see if he has made honor payments. I think you will see it is just frustration. I would bet he will be a stand up guy.

[mopar1968]

His carb has been delievered i think it is time for mine to be sent back.

[shawnp]

I have asked him to respond here in the forum. He sent me a PM which will make all involved happy. I will give him the opportunity to respond.

[jrlj]

Mr. UPS came in WITHOUT a carb 10 minutes ago. I checked tracking and someone, UPS refered to as the SHIPPER, intercepted the shippment and requested it be returned. I've been waiting a week for this package. Have his carb sitting here for the UPS to take, tracking #1z73y90f7297609206. All you who think Mr. Mopar is a stand up guy are WRONG. Who's been taken in this deal? He wants everyone to know about this deal, well everyone does.

[mopar1968]

I haven't done a thing except send your carb back i will however find out, you hold my carb untill you get yours. the carb was sent from the dealership where i work, i just talked with the parts mgr about this, he said he recalled a shippment of parts, i ask him to check the numbers he did, mistake on his part he is trying to turn it around out there. he got on phone with ups when i was in parts dept.

[mopar1968]

JUST GOT OFF PHONE WITH JIM, EVERYTHING IS FINE, TOLD HIM TO SELL MY CARB FOR HIS TROUBLE, EXPLAINED WHAT HAPPENED WITH HIS, PARTS MGR CANCELLED PARTS ORDERS DUE TO PARTIES CHECK BOUNCING, DIDN'T PAY ATTENTION TO ADDRESS, TYPED ALL TRACKING NUMBERS FOR YESTERDAYS ORDERS SENT OUT TO CANCELL, ALSO CANCELLED JIM'S CARB, I ALSO TOLD JIM I AM SORRY FOR THE WHOLE MESS HE UNDERSTOOD, END OF STORY. STOPS HERE! ALSO PARTS MGR SAID IF HE CAN'T GET TURNED AROUND JIM'S CARB WILL BE SENT OVERNIGHT ON DEALERSHIPS EXPENSE.

[jrlj]

everything is as Mark said. Hopefully UPS can get that thing delivered. Thanks to mark for taking care of this.

[lively]

THAT IS GOOD IT WORKED OUT 8) 8) 8) ---JUST LEARN FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE AND GET BUILDING---GOOD LUCK-----LIVELY

[shawnp]

Glad to see this. It's amazing how far a little communication and some patience will go. Not everyone on here is out to take advantage of the next guy. Good luck to you both.

[mopar1968]

Carb shipped back to Jim, tracking-- 1za939f10391141183

[Tod74]

Carb shipped back to Jim, tracking-- 1za939f10391141183

SO what happened to YOUR carb? You told him to sell it ?

So after all the hassle you ended up with NO CARB AT ALL? :shock:

[mopar1968]

Yep thats right no carb at all, lost the dominator i first traded for, then lost the 750 demon, then lost the 850 demon, done this just to keep down trouble, i am a firm believer that things come to those who does wrong towards others!!! WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND! and also lost $130.00 in shipping cost!

[Tod74]

Yep thats right no carb at all, lost the dominator i first traded for, then lost the 750 demon, then lost the 850 demon, done this just to keep down trouble, i am a firm believer that things come to those who does wrong towards others!!! WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND! and also lost $130.00 in shipping cost!

wow...that sucks. :? your luck is about as good as mine.

[mopar1968]

Yes it does but life goes on!

[mopar1968]

Just to let everyone know jim signed for and got his carb back today, tracking number- 1za939f10391141183-

[lively]

Just to let everyone know jim signed for and got his carb back today, tracking number- 1za939f10391141183-

JUST MY THOUGHT----YOU ARE A VERY BIG MAN TO FIX THIS PROBLEM LIKE YOU DID AND THE GOOD WILL COME BACK TO YOU SOME DAY 8) 8) 8) 8) --LIVELY

[Tod74]

Just to let everyone know jim signed for and got his carb back today, tracking number- 1za939f10391141183-

JUST MY THOUGHT----YOU ARE A VERY BIG MAN TO FIX THIS PROBLEM LIKE YOU DID AND THE GOOD WILL COME BACK TO YOU SOME DAY 8) 8) 8) 8) --LIVELY

I think his CARB should come back to him. He got screwed big time...I know he told the guy he could sell it but still...

[mopar1968]

Thanks guy's i am just trying to keep my good name on here!!!!!!!!!!

[wvhippie]

My friend it seams like you guys really just had some misscomunication and a simple mistake on your parts mgr. It would be a gentlmanly gesture to see your carb show up. Just my thoughts. God Bless and Good Luck. Hippie :)

[mopar1968]

I don't look to ever see it again, he hasn't even resopnded here that he got his back.

[jrlj]

Before this fiasco I didn't even know about this forum. He told me to keep his carb, not my idea. I offered to sell it and give him $$. He declined. He said keep it for your trouble. He made a mistake and took care of it. Took a while, but I got my carb back. Some of you should get a life and quit stiring the pot. Our deal is complete on the terms HE stated. The end.

[performanceengin]

mopar showed what a stand up guy he is. hopefully you will also.

[lively]

Before this fiasco I didn't even know about this forum. He told me to keep his carb, not my idea. I offered to sell it and give him $$. He declined. He said keep it for your trouble. He made a mistake and took care of it. Took a while, but I got my carb back. Some of you should get a life and quit stiring the pot. Our deal is complete on the terms HE stated. The end.
YOU KNOW IT WAS A HONEST MISTAKE!!!!!!! YOU SHOULD ALSO KNOW THAT THE HONEST THING TO DO WOULD BE TO SEND HIS CARB BACK -PERIOD :oops: :oops: :oops: NOT STIRRING THE POT JUST STATING THE FACTS AND TRUTH 8) 8) 8)

[Tod74]

Before this fiasco I didn't even know about this forum. He told me to keep his carb, not my idea. I offered to sell it and give him $$. He declined. He said keep it for your trouble. He made a mistake and took care of it. Took a while, but I got my carb back. Some of you should get a life and quit stiring the pot. Our deal is complete on the terms HE stated. The end.
YOU KNOW IT WAS A HONEST MISTAKE!!!!!!! YOU SHOULD ALSO KNOW THAT THE HONEST THING TO DO WOULD BE TO SEND HIS CARB BACK -PERIOD :oops: :oops: :oops: NOT STIRRING THE POT JUST STATING THE FACTS AND TRUTH 8) 8) 8)

Agreed

[olds48]

I agree with Lively,too.Do your part.Do the right thing

[lotsof454sss]

Nah, go ahead and keep the carb and then we will all know you the kind of man you present yourself to be...and want others to recognize you....

So now do you really think it is the right thing to do and we are all full of crap and your the only smart and honest man on here...

Oh yea, we are real glad to know you and welcome to the forums and I am sure you will have lots of friends on here now....

[olds48]

I mean,if he told you it was an honest mistake,and then paid to send you the carb,out of his pocket.The least you could do is return the favor.How much would it really cost to send it?$15-20 at the most?Or,did you decide to be greedy and keep his carb for free?Which is the same as stealing it,if you ask me.

[Tod74]

I mean,if he told you it was an honest mistake,and then paid to send you the carb,out of his pocket.The least you could do is return the favor.How much would it really cost to send it?$15-20 at the most?Or,did you decide to be greedy and keep his carb for free?Which is the same as stealing it,if you ask me.

AND.... not only is Mopar out his carb...he also lost 130 bucks for shipping.
To me it is sort of like when the girl at the retauraunt acidentally gives you back too much change. It wasn't your fault..it was her mistake. If you are a scumbag you just keep it and go on about your day...then she gets to pay the money back because it was her mistake. A decent person gives it back.
The title of this thread is acurate..because you sure don't want to be doing ANY dealing with this jrlj guy...not in a million years. But I guess I should just get a life cause I am just a trouble making troll. :lol:

[olds48]

Tod74 wrote: "a decent persom gives it back"

Well said,man.

[mopar1968]

I really don't think he is going to answer, I say my carb is sold !

[mopar1968]

Hey guys JRLJ just sent me a message, he slammed me for making him look bad on here, i told him that i only done what was right. [sending carb back] I told him i didn't make him look bad he done that all by himself!!!!!!!

[jrlj]

not quite. asked you to act the same on here as privately.

Tod74 at least use a good analogy. how bout the waitress gives you the wrong food, terrible service, and then badmouths you, comes back and says sorry, I was wrong, please take this food for free on me because of what I've done. much more accurate.

when mark called he was very clear he wanted me to keep his carb for the hassle, did not want anything in return, I offered, told him that was not necessary, he insisted, said he was sorry for all the bad words and hassle, then gets on here and acts like I ripped him off. thanks for all of you keyboard racers. good luck to mark, he needs it

[Tod74]

not quite. asked you to act the same on here as privately.

Tod74 at least use a good analogy. how bout the waitress gives you the wrong food, terrible service, and then badmouths you, comes back and says sorry, I was wrong, please take this food for free on me because of what I've done. much more accurate.

when mark called he was very clear he wanted me to keep his carb for the hassle, did not want anything in return, I offered, told him that was not necessary, he insisted, said he was sorry for all the bad words and hassle, then gets on here and acts like I ripped him off. thanks for all of you keyboard racers. good luck to mark, he needs it

Keep telling yourself whatever makes you feel better. He screwed up on the original trade and although he did make a post about you here, your inconvenience doesn't warrant a free carburator. My analogy was correct. Your actions here confirm what he was warning us about...You are not the type of person most want to do business with.
Have a wonderful summer.

[lively]

To err is human...To blame someone else shows good management skills.


the man made a mistake and corrected it -----"YOU CROOKED HIM FOR THAT FACT" :oops: :oops: BY KEEPING HIS CARB EVEN IF HE TOLD YOU TO KEEP IT!!!!---THE TRUE SPIRIT OF A MAN COMES OUT BY HIS EXPRESSED ACTIONS--BE A REAL HONEST MAN AND SEND HIS CARB BACK!!! 8) 8) -LIVELY IN ILLINOIS

[olds48]

My dad always told me that you never really know a man until you do business with him.Sad but true.

[67ss396chevelle]

You should sell the carb., Keep what you think is fair for your troubles and send him what is left over. I think the guy deserves something for his headache and it was insisted that he take it.

[lively]

You should sell the carb., Keep what you think is fair for your troubles and send him what is left over. I think the guy deserves something for his headache and it was insisted that he take it.
YOU DON'T THINK MOPAR1968 DESERVES A FAIR SHAKE ON THIS DEAL HIMSELF!!!!!????--HE HAD THE HEADACHE WHEN THE SHIPPING GOT CANCELED AND HE GOT BERATED FOR IT!!!!!---LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND SEE THE TRUE HONEST THING TO DO[ HOW YOU WOULD WANT TREATED IN THIS SITUATION :oops: :oops: :oops: ]-----LIVELY

[67ss396chevelle]

Well to start with mop made the offer for him to keep it. I think a fair resolution to both parties would be to SELL the carb and split the money. Obviuosly mop sees something wrong in his dealings (intentional or not) and made an offer to rectify the situation. if you think that is not a fair offer then you should tell mop "that was a stupid thing to do". Maybe jrlj values his time more than you do and feels like this is fair. you fellas act as if jrlj is stealing his carb when that is in no way the case. I assume mop is a grown man that can make decisions on his own whether good or bad he still made it. in short, live with the decision you made.. good or bad.

I hope I didnt ruffle too many feathers. its just my .02.

[mopar1968]

I would say you ruffled a few. believe me they will let you know quick !!! What i don't understand you have been on here for 3-4 years now posted two post both on my thread?

[Scorpion1110]

Indeed Mopar you raise an interesting point re 67SS.

But I wanted to comment on what I think everyone is trying to get at. You make a mistake, a bad deal whatever. Both sides are unhappy, but there is one side who feels it important to make the first move.

So Mopar, you offer for JR to keep the carb for his trouble. Then what I would expect and we usually see is that the other person would appreciate your offer, see it for the fact that it is intended to make things right then turn it down. The offer is what has value, not the damn carb.

JR should have realized that there was a communication mistake, been appreciative of your offer and then met that generosity by returning the carb. deal done, friends made and everyone happy.

When he kept the carb and said he did it because you told him that was the deal? It became all about the money.

But then these days it is all about the money right? Not about doing whats right, making friends and building relationships, even meeting trading partners.

Mopar, what that carb deal/final offer bought you is the admiration and respect of many on this board.

JR, returning it would buy you the same.

My opinion as always,

Later

[67ss396chevelle]

I would say you ruffled a few. believe me they will let you know quick !!! What i don't understand you have been on here for 3-4 years now posted two post both on my thread?

Would it change the anything at all if I had 10000 post on here before this one? no. This is an open forum for all members so I figured I would put my .02 in. I would have done the same thing you did mop after things went the way they did. I would have offered to compensate him for his troubles but I would not have let things continue the way they have in this thread. If you honestly did not want to offer compensation then the words "keep my carb" should have never been spoken. Fellas I drag race too and I try to help people out when I can but there comes a time when you make mistakes and someone else is affected in a negative way. If you feel the need to make things right with honest intentions of doing just that, then you should actually expect the other person to take what you are offering as just that.. compensation.

Mop I am sorry things got messed up in your deal but I wouldnt let these guys bash on jrlj for accepting an offer you made. Chalk it up to experience and be sure the next person you deal with has pictures of what you are sending them.

[mopar1968]

If you can read this thread was started long before i said ''keep the carb'' no it wouldn't have made a difference how many post you had, the point is i can't control what people say on here, nor will i try to control it. They are all grown up and can do and say what they want!!! oh by the way do you have a profile so we know with whom we are talking to?

[lively]

LET US GO WITH THIS LINE--- 67ss396chevelle--THE ?? WAS RAISED ABOUT YOUR POST[ WE HAVE HAD QUITE A FEW IMPOSTER POSTS ON HERE BUT THAT WAS FOUND OUT BY THE MODERATOR :oops:] --YOU HAVE BEEN HERE 3 YEARS AND DO NOT HAVE A PROFILE FILLED OUT??/ YOU NEVER POSTED BEFOR THIS TIME?? YOU HAVE NO LOCATION ON YOUR AVATAR?? AND THEN YOU WONDER WHY OTHER RACERS ARE SUSPICIOUS :? :? ----READ THE WHOLE POST AND LOOK AT ALL THE FACTS[ WE ARE 100% RIGHT ON THIS DEAL AND BOTH SIDES KNOW IT!!---THIS BUNCH OF GUYS AND GALS HAS SAVED LITERALLY $1000'S OF DOLLARS FOR OUR FELLOW RACERS BECAUSE IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO/ AND TRIED TO SETTLE SOME PRETTY NASTY DISPUTES/ AND HAVE A VERY GOOD TRACK RECORD 8) 8) ---YOU MIGHT WANT TO FILL OUT YOUR PROFILE AND BE A OPEN MEMBER ON THIS FORUM BECAUSE SOMEDAY YOU MIGHT NEED OUR HELP ;TOO---LIVELY

[67ss396chevelle]

Yep thats right no carb at all, lost the dominator i first traded for, then lost the 750 demon, then lost the 850 demon, done this just to keep down trouble, i am a firm believer that things come to those who does wrong towards others!!! WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND! and also lost $130.00 in shipping cost!


Yes mop I can read LOL. If it were me I would try to explain to these guys that seem to be coming down on jrlj that I was the one that GAVE him my carb because of a mistake I made. Seeing as how you were the one that made the mistake in representing your carb as something it was not (unintentionally ok) it would seem only fair that jrlj was not responsible for your $130 loss. as for the 3 carbs you say you lost well I dont know where the dominator came into play but the 850 was the property of jrlj from the start and you gave up the 750. I guess the only one you could have lost would be the dominator but dont know the story on that one. Maybe what you say is right, and when jrlj offers compensation for a deal gone bad because of him they will accept it and "what went around came around"

I dont in any way want you to thik I am attacking you personally mop. like I said before just my opinion on the matter.

[67ss396chevelle]

LET US GO WITH THIS LINE--- 67ss396chevelle--THE ?? WAS RAISED ABOUT YOUR POST[ WE HAVE HAD QUITE A FEW IMPOSTER POSTS ON HERE BUT THAT WAS FOUND OUT BY THE MODERATOR :oops:] --YOU HAVE BEEN HERE 3 YEARS AND DO NOT HAVE A PROFILE FILLED OUT??/ YOU NEVER POSTED BEFOR THIS TIME?? YOU HAVE NO LOCATION ON YOUR AVATAR?? AND THEN YOU WONDER WHY OTHER RACERS ARE SUSPICIOUS :? :? ----READ THE WHOLE POST AND LOOK AT ALL THE FACTS[ WE ARE 100% RIGHT ON THIS DEAL AND BOTH SIDES KNOW IT!!---THIS BUNCH OF GUYS AND GALS HAS SAVED LITERALLY $1000'S OF DOLLARS FOR OUR FELLOW RACERS BECAUSE IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO/ AND TRIED TO SETTLE SOME PRETTY NASTY DISPUTES/ AND HAVE A VERY GOOD TRACK RECORD 8) 8) ---YOU MIGHT WANT TO FILL OUT YOUR PROFILE AND BE A OPEN MEMBER ON THIS FORUM BECAUSE SOMEDAY YOU MIGHT NEED OUR HELP ;TOO---LIVELY

Point out where to fill out my profile and I will gladly do so. I have been a member here for years and I dont know what the whole imposter thing is about. I dont always agree with the "masses" so I tend to not join in on the bashings that go on. I have looked at all the "facts" of the post and I stand by my opinion 100%. I am sure that you fellas have gathered together and muscled some BAD members into doing what is right and I say"GREAT JOB" but in my opinion this situation is not one of those. jrlj may be one of the biggest scammers on here or he may just be a good guy in a bad situation, I dont know. I only see what has been posted in this thread and that is what I used to draw an opinion off of.

and I have actually been here 4 years 1 month and 9 days which is longer than your 3 years 4 months and 18 days..not that it matters :lol:

[mopar1968]

First of all no-one said anything about me misrepresenting the carb i had untill now, so it is either you know Jim or related to him watching this forum to see what is going on. some folks may get a laugh from this but only myself and Jim talked about the carb's and what they were, so how did you find out about the carbs? the dominator came in because it went first for the 750 carb Jim now has, and like i told Jim if you would care to read the complete thread, everyone on here knows what i told jim. Y ou seem to know alittle more for some reason.

[67ss396chevelle]

First of all no-one said anything about me misrepresenting the carb i had untill now, so it is either you know Jim or related to him watching this forum to see what is going on. some folks may get a laugh from this but only myself and Jim talked about the carb's and what they were, so how did you find out about the carbs? the dominator came in because it went first for the 750 carb Jim now has, and like i told Jim if you would care to read the complete thread, everyone on here knows what i told jim. Y ou seem to know alittle more for some reason.

On [2008-02-14 14:06:12] jrlj wrote:
> > > > > > Mark, problem, yousaid you had a 750 mighty demon and sent me a speed demon. I did not want a speed demon, I wanted a mighty demon. what now? Jim 541-396-8025



I have read the post but maybe you have not. maybe that is where all the confusion came from to begin with? I dont know jrlj at all but if we were brothers would it change what actually went on even a little bit? NO. In fact the above post indicates a post was made stating you did misrepresent (not intentionally maybe) what you had. I think its funny how your trying to find some kind of flaw or conspiracy in my post.
you posted that you LOST the dominator in this thread as if you losing it had something to do with jrlj when in fact it doesnt.

[Tod74]

Indeed Mopar you raise an interesting point re 67SS.

But I wanted to comment on what I think everyone is trying to get at. You make a mistake, a bad deal whatever. Both sides are unhappy, but there is one side who feels it important to make the first move.

So Mopar, you offer for JR to keep the carb for his trouble. Then what I would expect and we usually see is that the other person would appreciate your offer, see it for the fact that it is intended to make things right then turn it down. The offer is what has value, not the damn carb.

JR should have realized that there was a communication mistake, been appreciative of your offer and then met that generosity by returning the carb. deal done, friends made and everyone happy.

When he kept the carb and said he did it because you told him that was the deal? It became all about the money.

But then these days it is all about the money right? Not about doing whats right, making friends and building relationships, even meeting trading partners.

Mopar, what that carb deal/final offer bought you is the admiration and respect of many on this board.

JR, returning it would buy you the same.

My opinion as always,

Later



BINGO!!

[67ss396chevelle]

Please read the post. Guy is an idiot. I don't want his carb and have made it clear. I DO want him to pay for the return shipping because it is his fault he mislead/lied/didn't know/can't read or take your pick. He offered to swap his 750 mighty demon for my 850 mighty demon, I shipped him mine, 5 days later he shipped his. He sent me a speed demon, In the original speed demon bag, part # on bag, in a speed demon box and says "I thought it was a mighty demon" $25 to ship his carb back for his screw up, he can pay it!


Even the box read SPEED DEMON? ok lets answer some simple questions fellas..

Who misrepresented what they had (accident or not)?
Who represented what they had correctly?
Who rerouted the carb they were returning? Who evers fault it was (manager, janitor or the butler) it still happened.
Who was it that said "keep my carb for your troubles?
Why did you wait 5 days to ship your carb to him?
Who came on here and made the original post (maybe prematurely)?
If it were me I would sell the carb for $150 or whatever I could get out of it and send you (mop) half.

Maybe jrlj does deserve something for his headache.

[lively]

YOU KNOW YOU STILL HAVE NOT TOLD WHERE YOU ARE FROM :oops: :oops: --SOMETHING STILL DON'T MAKE SENCE HERE ON YOUR POSTS-YOU SEEM TO KNOW AN AWFUL LOT ABOUT THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS DEAL 8) 8)

[67ss396chevelle]

YOU KNOW YOU STILL HAVE NOT TOLD WHERE YOU ARE FROM :oops: :oops: --SOMETHING STILL DON'T MAKE SENCE HERE ON YOUR POSTS-YOU SEEM TO KNOW AN AWFUL LOT ABOUT THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS DEAL 8) 8)

Southeast Alabama. OK fellas I am coming clean..I am jrlj's lost conjoined twin brother. I have been waiting for this day to make myself known to anyone. I knew one day he would need someone to defend him and his honor so here I am. LMFAO. I love this conspiracy thing. I will play along if it makes you fellas happy. I have a feeling we will be back and forth with you guys looking for a way to discredit my comments. I say have at it.

LIVELY Dude if you would go and read ALL the post that have been made then maybe you would see what I see. it makes SENSE that you all are bashing jrlj because no one has read the ENTIRE story. Its all there in the very first post.

[67ss396chevelle]

This guy has taken me for a demon carb, can someone tell me how to post all of our messages on this parts trade? ad# 1096959 his name is JR Spano 61406 So third str AS YOU CAN SEE I SENT THIS GUYS CARB BACK TO HIM.

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From: jrlj To: mopar1968 Date: 2008-02-19 21:38:22
Subject: Re: carb
Re: Ad #1096959
Message: went to ship your carb today, $36 priority mail, $24 parcel post, $29 ups, I'm not paying this twice for YOUR mistake, let me know how you want it shhipped, maybe cod.

On [2008-02-18 20:54:32] mopar1968 wrote:
> did you get my carb out today?
>
> On [2008-02-17 11:14:54] jrlj wrote:
> > When I made this deal with you I felt good about it because I wasn't dealing with a kid. My bad. Because someone sold you the wrong thing and you apparently make no effort to identify it, you basically call me a liar. Don't like that. IF you would look on Barry Grant's website you can see each model, IF you look at the dealers ads you can see the the difference, same with Jegs. Because someone else does the same as you doesn't make it so, On top of it being in a bag with part number and a box that says SPEED DEMON. Detectives call this a clue. I am out time and money because you don't know what you have, but some guy told it was this. I assumed you knew the difference. Your carb left your place 5 days after I gave you a #. I will ship your carb back. I already have this exact model.
> >
> > On [2008-02-16 23:48:05] mopar1968 wrote:
> > > You need to ship mine back to me, i need a tracking number monday, i have allready sent yours back, given you a tracking number. i am not trying to be a butthole either, i have done the right thing, but you haven't as of yet!
> > >
> > > On [2008-02-14 21:08:48] jrlj wrote:
> > > > Mark, not trying to be a butthead but I would like to get this resolved quickly. I sent that carb off almost 2 weeks ago. You shipped yours faster, but days later. Really don't want this to drag on for weeks. I turned down 3 other offers after I made a deal with you. Like I said before, the box has the part # and states "speed demon" on it. Let me know. thanx, JR
> > > >
> > > > On [2008-02-14 16:48:51] mopar1968 wrote:
> > > > > i had never owned one before, or ran one, the guy i got it from said it was a mighty demon, i ran it for about 30 minutes and didn't like it, was going to sell it.i went back to my holley. what do you have in mind?
> > > > >
> > > > > On [2008-02-14 14:06:12] jrlj wrote:
> > > > > > Mark, problem, yousaid you had a 750 mighty demon and sent me a speed demon. I did not want a speed demon, I wanted a mighty demon. what now? Jim 541-396-8025
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On [2008-02-06 11:13:45] mopar1968 wrote:
> > > > > > > tracking number is, this is UPS
> > > > > > > 1ZA939F10392773007
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On [2008-02-04 22:01:50] jrlj wrote:
> > > > > > > > Did you get that carb shipped today?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On [2008-02-03 21:39:22] mopar1968 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > lol i will take it out before ship.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On [2008-02-03 20:36:38] jrlj wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > did not send fuel line, if I have one don't know where it is. Keep yours and I'll figure one out. thanx much, JR
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On [2008-02-03 19:57:08] mopar1968 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > be shipping in the morning from work. did you have a fuel line they take a funky one. i am sending one with this carb if you are sending one.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On [2008-02-02 15:43:53] jrlj wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > wife shipped your carb today, usps, tracking is 03060320000207404214 or the last 4 might be 4221, shipped 2 things and she didn't mark the tag, anyway it's on the way. let me know whats up on your end. thanx, JR
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> > > > > > > > > > > > On [2008-02-01 09:11:15] mopar1968 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > send me your address and i will get it to you;
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > mine is
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark arnold
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > abingdon virginia 24211
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > no shipping charge to you, i will ship free.
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[Tod74]

So Mopar, you offer for JR to keep the carb for his trouble. Then what I would expect and we usually see is that the other person would appreciate your offer, see it for the fact that it is intended to make things right then turn it down. The offer is what has value, not the damn carb.

JR should have realized that there was a communication mistake, been appreciative of your offer and then met that generosity by returning the carb. deal done, friends made and everyone happy.

When he kept the carb and said he did it because you told him that was the deal? It became all about the money.

But then these days it is all about the money right? Not about doing whats right, making friends and building relationships, even meeting trading partners.

Mopar, what that carb deal/final offer bought you is the admiration and respect of many on this board.

JR, returning it would buy you the same.

My opinion as always,

Later


in case 67ss396chevelle missed this part. Nobody disputes that Mopar gave him the carb...it is what is stated in the above quoted post that is the real issue...at least for me.

[olds48]

I can see both sides of it....kinda.There was a mixup,and I'm NOT gonna pick sides on that.When mopar offered for him to keep the carb,sounds like things I have done in the past.Something doesn't go exactly as planned,one party gets all riled up and you look for a quick fix to end it.Sometimes your mouth outruns your brain.We all understand that mopar freely offered the card to jrlj,all we are saying is that if jrllj was kinda greedy to accept something that costly as "payment" for all his "trouble".Mopar was trying to right the situation,probably didn't think things thru all the way and jrlj took advantage of the situation.Mopar did not come on here saying that jrlj stole his carb.He came on here,originally, saying that jrlj was just hard to deal with.From the posts we've all read,I think we can all agree on that.Mopar never asked for his carb back.WEasked for his carb back.Mopar was being too nice.Jrlj was,and is being too greedy.After all,if that carb caused him SOOO much trauma in his life,and it was something that he DID NOT WANT,why does he want to hold on to it so badly?Mopar has done nothing wrong.So everybody shut up off him and quit accusing him of being tricky.It is OBVIOUS that by his VOLUNTARY financial loss in this dealing that he is not out to get over on anyone.The only post that needs to go up here,IMHO,is the one saying Jrlj sent it back after realizing that he didn't need the money from selling it to cover his counseling to help him recover from such a traumitizing ordeal :roll:

[Tod74]

He needs counseling to deal with his personal "demons" :P

[lively]

So Mopar, you offer for JR to keep the carb for his trouble. Then what I would expect and we usually see is that the other person would appreciate your offer, see it for the fact that it is intended to make things right then turn it down. The offer is what has value, not the damn carb.

JR should have realized that there was a communication mistake, been appreciative of your offer and then met that generosity by returning the carb. deal done, friends made and everyone happy.

When he kept the carb and said he did it because you told him that was the deal? It became all about the money.

But then these days it is all about the money right? Not about doing whats right, making friends and building relationships, even meeting trading partners.

Mopar, what that carb deal/final offer bought you is the admiration and respect of many on this board.

JR, returning it would buy you the same.

My opinion as always,

Later


in case 67ss396chevelle missed this part. Nobody disputes that Mopar gave him the carb...it is what is stated in the above quoted post that is the real issue...at least for me.

I AGREE COMPLETELY----IT IS THE RIGHT AND HONEST / THING TO DO---SEND MOPAR BACK HIS CARB-- [JR--MAKE THE EFFORT TO SHOW EVERYONE THAT YOU ARE A TRUE/ HONEST/- RACER]---LIVELY

[olds48]

See.... Lively agrees with me...I gotta be right :D

[mopar1968]

i would just like to know why you popped up all the sudden, this has been weeks?

[lively]

OH ---AND BY THE WAY-67ss396chevelle-I HAVEN'T POSTED OVER 1000 POSTS BECAUSE I DID NOT READ THE POSTS ON THIS FORUM---I STAND UP AND SPEAK WHAT I KNOW ABOUT/ LISTEN TO OTHERS WHEN I DON'T /AND LEARN FROM MY OWN AND OTHERS MISTAKES---I JUST MIGHT BE OLD ENOUGH TO BE YOUR DAD BUT THEN WE DO NOT HAVE ANY IDEA HOW OLD YOU ARE--I HAVE DEALED AND RACED FOR OVER 30 TEARS AND STILL TRY TO LEARN SOMETHING NEW EVERYDAY 8) 8) 8)--YOU EARN RESPECT/ IT IS NOT HANDED TO YOU-----LIVELY

[67ss396chevelle]

i would just like to know why you popped up all the sudden, this has been weeks?

I watch the forum to see who is scamming who from time to time and came across this post. Next?

[67ss396chevelle]

OH ---AND BY THE WAY-67ss396chevelle-I HAVEN'T POSTED OVER 1000 POSTS BECAUSE I DID NOT READ THE POSTS ON THIS FORUM---I STAND UP AND SPEAK WHAT I KNOW ABOUT/ LISTEN TO OTHERS WHEN I DON'T /AND LEARN FROM MY OWN AND OTHERS MISTAKES---I JUST MIGHT BE OLD ENOUGH TO BE YOUR DAD BUT THEN WE DO NOT HAVE ANY IDEA HOW OLD YOU ARE--I HAVE DEALED AND RACED FOR OVER 30 TEARS AND STILL TRY TO LEARN SOMETHING NEW EVERYDAY 8) 8) 8)--YOU EARN RESPECT/ IT IS NOT HANDED TO YOU-----LIVELY

Maybe if you had read the post on this forum you would have a better understanding of the situation. Age in no way equals wisdom and at your age you should know that by now. My age does not have anything at all to do with this matter now does it. I have only been racing for about 19 years but I have had dealings with people all my life. AS far as earning respect well, I would rather have the respect of one man that is fair than that of a 1000 that are not.

[mopar1968]

So are you saying i scammed him? Still no profile?

[67ss396chevelle]

So are you saying i scammed him? Still no profile?

well "I" never SAID you scammed him. Like I said if you want to know something about me that is relevant to your situation in this post then feel free to ask and I will tell you. I think you fellas keep going back to the whole profile thing because you think this is a conspiracy. I told you before I dont know jrlj. Why dont you think about your next reply real good and see if you can come back with something that proves jrlj was wrong in accepting the compensation MOP offered him.

Let me see if I can guess the next question you will have..hmmm.. oh I know.. Are you black or white? are you voting for barack obama or hillary? maybe you want to know my religion.

I dont mean to be harsh guys but I think we are getting off the subject here.

[mopar1968]

Have i ever said he was wrong or right? I don't care if you are black or white, don't care who you vote for. But there is one thing for sure, the price of the carb didn't warrant me going across the u,s after it, but you sure are getting me to that point with you. You seem to be one of these people that get's their kicks from keeping things stirred up and is afraid to show themselves for who they really are, well on second thought you have showed whom you are, TO THE REST OF YOU GUY'S ON HERE, IGNORE THIS PEST AND IT MIGHT GO AWAY!

[67ss396chevelle]

Have i ever said he was wrong or right? I don't care if you are black or white, don't care who you vote for. But there is one thing for sure, the price of the carb didn't warrant me going across the u,s after it, but you sure are getting me to that point with you.

LMAO @ MOP Sorry you feel like you have to TRY and beat on a person because they brought a different point of view to your attention. Shows your level of intelligence there buddy. I thought we were all adults just having an open discussion. If you would grow up and take responsibility for your multiple mistakes in this situation you might feel just a little bit better about yourself. Instead of threatening violence you should try seeing the other side of this situation. thats all im trying to get you to do here..friend

[67ss396chevelle]

Well I see that any hopes of any reasoning you might have has turned to stupidity so I guess I will stop "poking at the bears". I do have to say I got some enjoyment out of conversing with you guys. I do honestly feel that jrlj had every right to keep the carb you offered him to make up for your mistakes. Just my opinion. I will check back every now and then to see if you want to chat about it some more.

Someone great once said "We all have to take a stand at some point....I think I'll stand here"

[mopar1968]

I feel great about myself, drag racing is starting up, going racing, lovely wife, nice home, nice garage, fast car, what else is there. I only made one mistake. And that is trying to deal with Jim.

[67ss396chevelle]

awww I just cant stand it. How do I show who I am?

[67ss396chevelle]

I feel great about myself, drag racing is starting up, going racing, lovely wife, nice home, nice garage, fast car, what else is there. I only made one mistake. And that is trying to deal with Jim.

Now your placing blame on him. You made a mistake by misrepresenting what you had (by accident). after things got out of hand a little you realized it was mostly your fault so you done something good (offered the carb as compensation) and made it right. Great job! exactly how you should have handled it. But then things went down hill in this forum becasue you didnt actually intend on giving him the compensation you offered and the guilt trip started.

[mopar1968]

I am not on a guilt trip, up untill now i havent said a thing about it, let everyone else do it, they ask for the carb back not me. I am as happy as i can be. Got everything i want.

[67ss396chevelle]

I am not on a guilt trip, up untill now i havent said a thing about it, let everyone else do it, they ask for the carb back not me. I am as happy as i can be. Got everything i want.

Well if your ever coming down this way let me know. you can come by and we will finish our converstion and then we can go to our shop and check out the race cars.

[Tod74]

So Mopar, you offer for JR to keep the carb for his trouble. Then what I would expect and we usually see is that the other person would appreciate your offer, see it for the fact that it is intended to make things right then turn it down. The offer is what has value, not the damn carb.

JR should have realized that there was a communication mistake, been appreciative of your offer and then met that generosity by returning the carb. deal done, friends made and everyone happy.

When he kept the carb and said he did it because you told him that was the deal? It became all about the money.

But then these days it is all about the money right? Not about doing whats right, making friends and building relationships, even meeting trading partners.

Mopar, what that carb deal/final offer bought you is the admiration and respect of many on this board.

JR, returning it would buy you the same.

My opinion as always,

Later


it is what is stated in the above quoted post that is the real issue...at least for me.

[mopar1968]

Yeah i bet you have racecars, Look this is my last and final post to you, you believe what you want to, but one thing is for sure and certain, you are alone in your beliefs, everyone else see's it different and for what it is. maybe you need to come here and see real racecars!!

[67ss396chevelle]

Yeah i bet you have racecars, Look this is my last and final post to you, you believe what you want to, but one thing is for sure and certain, you are alone in your beliefs, everyone else see's it different and for what it is. maybe you need to come here and see real racecars!!

Look MOP I know your ego is bruised a bit but that is what an open discussion does sometimes. You shouldnt threaten people though, it doesnt look good on your part. I dont mind being the only one with a certain point of view as long as I feel its right. I think you would be surprised at how many other people see it different than you and your buddies do. and yes I said RACECARS we teamed up with a guy from cali and were going to be traveling around the south and northeast some doing a few races. maybe we will meet up one day who knows. does 260-270 mph qualify as a REAL racecar in your book?

[lano]

does 260-270 mph qualify as a REAL racecar in your book?
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depends on if your going down the strip, or over a cliff ? :lol:

[67ss396chevelle]

does 260-270 mph qualify as a REAL racecar in your book?
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depends on if your going down the strip, or over a cliff ? :lol:

LOL :lol: I guess it doesnt matter as long as you get the win light.

[insane4fbodys]

Well it seems we have someone here that has more money to spend then some of us slower wanna be's.(67 SS) So why would this matter even bother you? Hell, go ahead buy the man a brand new Dominator and write it off on taxes next year, to show us how real money is thrown away. And everyone will see what a great top fuel man you are. Shoot man, most fellow racers would see it was an honest mistake and after the time and money he spent, would have sent the carb back to be a real fellow racer. He was never the man asking for his carb back, but look at the money he's out. Some of us don't have money and live paycheck to paycheck. So buying something for our cars is something to look forward to. Not trying to get ahead and then having to take 2 steps back. Accident or not, he stepped up and tried to do what was best. People on here are just saying that 99% of us would have just sent the man his carb back. Until your in a poor man shoes your whole life, please get off his case. As far as real racecars go, 260-270 is very impressive to be paid for, but real racecars are built in the backyards and single car garages of America with real blood, sweat and tears. And we are as or more proud of our slow stuff, then anybody that can buy a fast car/dragster. :P Flame off

[insane4fbodys]

http://www.racingjunk.com/profile/36418 Here's the profile for that name in the classifieds

[67ss396chevelle]

Well it seems we have someone here that has more money to spend then some of us slower wanna be's.(67 SS) So why would this matter even bother you? Hell, go ahead buy the man a brand new Dominator and write it off on taxes next year, to show us how real money is thrown away. And everyone will see what a great top fuel man you are. Shoot man, most fellow racers would see it was an honest mistake and after the time and money he spent, would have sent the carb back to be a real fellow racer. He was never the man asking for his carb back, but look at the money he's out. Some of us don't have money and live paycheck to paycheck. So buying something for our cars is something to look forward to. Not trying to get ahead and then having to take 2 steps back. Accident or not, he stepped up and tried to do what was best. People on here are just saying that 99% of us would have just sent the man his carb back. Until your in a poor man shoes your whole life, please get off his case. As far as real racecars go, 260-270 is very impressive to be paid for, but real racecars are built in the backyards and single car garages of America with real blood, sweat and tears. And we are as or more proud of our slow stuff, then anybody that can buy a fast car/dragster. :P Flame off



So im supposed to feel bad because I worked smart in life and have something and you didnt. Give me a break. 99% of you might have given it back and thats fine but you cant come down on jrlj because he doesnt have the same view as you. as far as being poor well, I was raised poor and decided I would not make my kid go through the same thing in llife that I had to. Dont you want better for your family? Maybe if your sooo poor you should stop racing and use the money to invest or build a profitable business. Then come back and build a nice car. :lol: just a thought. your comment about real race cars being built by blood sweat and blah blah blah dude get off your soap box. We all turn wrenches and sweat a lot to do this stuff and I spend my money wisely. I bet 75% of you fellas have more in your cars than we do.

I have told MOP I was not attacking him personally. I decided to voice my opinion and people started questioning it. So I explained my reasoning in this. I was only trying to show another point of view fellas.

Its amazing how far we have got off the subject. The further we get the more correct I know I am. So you fellas flame away if you like. My opinion makes my no less of a racer than you.

Thanks for posting my profile. Mop kept asking for it but I didnt know how to post.

Oh yeh I would go buy him a new dominator but he would probably just give it away too. LOL just kidding felllas :lol: :lol:

[67ss396chevelle]

http://www.racingjunk.com/profile/36418 Here's the profile for that name in the classifieds

How do I fill out a profile in the forums?

Well we are going to the lake for the day so it will be later on this afternoon before i get to read your wonderful replies. Hopefully you and mop will think about what has been said and take into account I have stated several times IT JUST AN OPINION just as your thoughts are. You guys have a great day.

[67ss396chevelle]

insane4fbodys
SENIOR BUILDER


Joined: 27 Apr 2005
Posts: 113
Location: Fort Smith
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:32 pm Post subject:

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I've been in this game for a long time. The ads that make me fall out laughing is the people that think they can spend 25-50K or more on something and then someone wants to give them their money back. Come on, this sport is like gambling, there's no real winners just the fun of spending the money and driving it. I like pro street style cars with the stock dash's left in them in them. First thing that kills these ads for me is Nicest Prostreet on Racing junk, and there's nothing left of the car they started with. All aluminum panels, dash, door panels and lexan windows. I guess I should be able to get $ 100,000 out of my #'s matching 71 SS/RS 396 Camaro then. Even with the flowmasters and TT II's. ROFLMAO


Well just the fun of spending money huh? What happened to blood sweat tears and building it in the dirt in the backyard with your kids running wild thru the yard chasing the dog and on and on. I have to say I think 25k is a good bit of money but wow a 100k for your car? Sounds like someone is living big paycheck to paycheck.

ok thats it I am going to the lake. LOL :lol:

[Tod74]

CATCH'N FISH OR BOATING FOR FUN? I can't wait to go fish'n.

[insane4fbodys]

WOW! you can use a computer, great for you. I didn't say I didn't have toys. But I have earned them through getting my hands dirty. My car means a lot to me, but know I'll never get what it's worth. I have no kids, but not for the lack of trying. So guess where my extra $$$$ went. Good for you on your business, your money, your family and clearly your way of thinking as your far better off then us. I guess there's not a MENSA racing junk out there for you. So your just stuck with us. So sorry. Enjoy your day. 8)

[67ss396chevelle]

CATCH'N FISH OR BOATING FOR FUN? I can't wait to go fish'n.
tod..
We went "noodling" some today. It was funny as H@ll. Didnt catch a thing but we seen some nice ones. We started going last year with my brother in law and he brought up one that was about 50lb. Today was nice and sunny out there. We had a blast. we pulled up to a public boat ramp where a bunch of people were swimming last year and came up with one about 25lbs..you should have seen the people scatter. it was like we had a stick of dynamite in our hands :lol: :lol: :lol: You should try it sometime its kinda the HANDS on version of catfishing. My 15 year old has grabbed a couple but couldnt get them to the top. Hopefully he will get a few this year.

Well I can say I have worked hard for what I have and had quite a few blessings come my way that I am thankful for. What is MENSA? I am not stuck with anybody. I have had great dealings with some awesome people on here and think of them all as friends. I bet if we met we could probably be friends. All you see of me is my view of this situation and you are trying to judge me totally off that. I am sorry if MOP is your buddy and you dont see it the way I do. I am entitled to my opinion as you are yours. I think maybe this is heading in a direction I refuse to go. so I guess I will go find a less sensitive subject to chat about. Insane hope you and yours the best . buckle in tight, be safe and no hard feelings because of this. It just isnt worth it.

[Tod74]

CATCH'N FISH OR BOATING FOR FUN? I can't wait to go fish'n.
tod..
We went "noodling" some today. It was funny as H@ll. Didnt catch a thing but we seen some nice ones. We started going last year with my brother in law and he brought up one that was about 50lb. Today was nice and sunny out there. We had a blast. we pulled up to a public boat ramp where a bunch of people were swimming last year and came up with one about 25lbs..you should have seen the people scatter. it was like we had a stick of dynamite in our hands :lol: :lol: :lol: You should try it sometime its kinda the HANDS on version of catfishing. My 15 year old has grabbed a couple but couldnt get them to the top. Hopefully he will get a few this year.

Well I can say I have worked hard for what I have and had quite a few blessings come my way that I am thankful for. What is MENSA? I am not stuck with anybody. I have had great dealings with some awesome people on here and think of them all as friends. I bet if we met we could probably be friends. All you see of me is my view of this situation and you are trying to judge me totally off that. I am sorry if MOP is your buddy and you dont see it the way I do. I am entitled to my opinion as you are yours. I think maybe this is heading in a direction I refuse to go. so I guess I will go find a less sensitive subject to chat about. Insane hope you and yours the best . buckle in tight, be safe and no hard feelings because of this. It just isnt worth it.

I have seen that on TV guys pull up huge flat heads from logs and holes...it is illegal in Indiana. I don't think I want to put my hand that far down a flat heads mouth..lol

[67ss396chevelle]

lol its kinda scary with the big ones. We catch mud and yellow cat. My brother in law run up on a beaver one time. He said he couldnt get back to boat fast enough. I bet one of those suckers would cost you a finger or two :lol: :lol: .

[Tod74]

I have heard of guys doing that with snapping turtles too...supposedly they always go in a hole head first...so you can reach in and grab em by the tail. Like I said "supposedly" they always go in head first.Used to work with a guy whos bro in law lost a finger cause someone forgot to tell a certain snapping turtle in Blue River that he was supposed to always go in head first...lol

[67ss396chevelle]

I have heard of guys doing that with snapping turtles too...supposedly they always go in a hole head first...so you can reach in and grab em by the tail. Like I said "supposedly" they always go in head first.Used to work with a guy whos bro in law lost a finger cause someone forgot to tell a certain snapping turtle in Blue River that he was supposed to always go in head first...lol

LMAO I HOPE all of the ones around here are well informed on proper procedure. I have seen a larger one bite through an unopened beer like it was nothing. We decided it would be a good idea to throw him out of the boat before someone got hurt..like me! LOL

[Tod74]

I have heard of guys doing that with snapping turtles too...supposedly they always go in a hole head first...so you can reach in and grab em by the tail. Like I said "supposedly" they always go in head first.Used to work with a guy whos bro in law lost a finger cause someone forgot to tell a certain snapping turtle in Blue River that he was supposed to always go in head first...lol

I have seen a larger one bite through an unopened beer like it was nothing.

That's alcohol abuse.

[olds48]

I have heard of guys doing that with snapping turtles too...supposedly they always go in a hole head first...so you can reach in and grab em by the tail. Like I said "supposedly" they always go in head first.Used to work with a guy whos bro in law lost a finger cause someone forgot to tell a certain snapping turtle in Blue River that he was supposed to always go in head first...lol

I have seen a larger one bite through an unopened beer like it was nothing.

That's alcohol abuse.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[67ss396chevelle]

That's alcohol abuse.[/quote]

Better than him abusing me. :lol: