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tireburner
02-13-2008, 10:43 AM
Can someone explaine to me where theses outrageous prices for cars are based on? I know that Barrette Jackson as really screwed the market up not so much for sellers but buyers are being ripped! I see car on here that are on the average over priced by 10,000 or more. I thought that you cannot expect to recover the labor cost if you have a shop build your car for you?

Tod74
02-13-2008, 10:48 AM
Price is based on how bad you want that particular car I guess.....

tireburner
02-13-2008, 10:56 AM
I think its based on example. Someone looking to sale a car. They have an idea what they feel that the car worth. So you browse threw ads looking at cars about the same as yours. And you see the same type car listed for 20,000 even though you thought yours was only worth 12,000 or 15,000 but you list it for 20,000 because that's what you see what the quote unquote other guys prices. So why not!

aaaaaaaaaaaaa
02-13-2008, 12:52 PM
alotta cars are priced to high for intsance the vegas and S10's....ive seen em for 10-15k.....another funny thing is when people put that there trade price is higher.....i laugh everytime i see that and especially when they have the cash price to high already......

v8Fiero
02-13-2008, 12:56 PM
its all a matter of what people are willing to pay for a car. a car that is worth 12,000 and listed at 20,000 probably wount sell if the buyer knows wht the car is worth. I wouldnt take a listing price as what cars are actually selling for, people ask outragous prices for cars all the time but that doesnt mean that they sell them for that much.

Some people are willing to pay huge amounts for cars that arnt worth what they paid mainly because those high dollar ones are big name brand cars like Boyd Coddington, or OCC motorcycles, or a rare make and model ('63 T-bar coupe for example), etc when they could get the same car built for half of what they paid. Its all about bragging rights and form over function.

personally, I am for function and drag racing and would rather spend money on something that will make my car faster then something that will make it look better. so I would never over-pay for a performance part since you can order them in a catalogue which is very buyer-friendly but apperarance items can be one-off custom pieces that are seller-friendly since they can exadurate how much time and effort they have into a certain item to jack up the price. its hard to sell a drag car that has 12k in parts for 20k but its much easier to sell a one-off show car that has 12k in parts/labor for 20k.

sorry, not sure where Im going with this, just my 2cents on the issue.

shawnp
02-13-2008, 02:52 PM
Are you talking street cars or race cars? Barett-Jackson has destroyed the classic/muscle car market. They have provided a false since of value based on rich men who have "mine is bigger than yours" attitudes when it comes to check books. They look hard and really qualify the buyer. They take the biggest check books that have the gotta have it attitude and put them in 1 room with complimentary alcohol then put it on TV. Next thing you know, the cars that the average person passed on are cars that the average person can barely afford.

As for race cars, there are no standards. It based on what you have in it, what you think it is worth and what the next guy is willing to pay for it.

image4you2see
03-04-2008, 07:25 AM
Barrett Jackson made everyone think there regular junk is worth a million..

olds48
03-04-2008, 09:08 AM
Barrett Jackson made everyone think there regular junk is worth a million..

AMENMakes it hard for some high school kid to go buy a $500 fixer-upper.$500 "fixer-uppers" have now turned into $5,000 "originals" :roll:

Oldewalnut
03-04-2008, 01:18 PM
[quote="]quote]

AMENMakes it hard for some high school kid to go buy a $500 fixer-upper.$500 "fixer-uppers" have now turned into $5,000 "originals" :roll:

Yeah, but hasn't it realy been this way for the last 25 years or so. I saw this back then, There were alot of 60's musclecars that had seen better days being sold for insane prices even then.

I remember telling my best friend, we should've borrowed ourselves into hock and bought up all the cast off Camaros, Mustangs, whatever and planted them in my Dads field. With the prices I've seen some junk sell for, could've made a pretty penny today.

In my case, I'm still looking for a car to return to racing. It's a case of one fool having the right car and the other fool having the right amount of money. Guess I just haven't found my fool yet!

RonOwensRacing
03-04-2008, 01:21 PM
Another thing i think you have to also look at is the type of parts in the car they can be two nova's same year and look the same but whats under the car and components also make a big difference in price .

fab 9" 4 link coil overs
ladder bar Dana
Brakes disc or drum or both
what type of electronics tire size you can get under the car wheels
There is a lot of factors that also play into the price of the car.

When i had my nova for sale there was a lot of people call or email and tell me that was a lot of money for a nova but on the same hand i had it priced at a little less than half the cost to build it .
and that wasn't counting the 8000.00 dollar paint job.

But i know what you are saying i drove all over looking at cars and most are way over priced for what they are .

insane4fbodys
03-04-2008, 01:32 PM
I've been in this game for a long time. The ads that make me fall out laughing is the people that think they can spend 25-50K or more on something and then someone wants to give them their money back. Come on, this sport is like gambling, there's no real winners just the fun of spending the money and driving it. I like pro street style cars with the stock dash's left in them in them. First thing that kills these ads for me is Nicest Prostreet on Racing junk, and there's nothing left of the car they started with. All aluminum panels, dash, door panels and lexan windows. I guess I should be able to get $ 100,000 out of my #'s matching 71 SS/RS 396 Camaro then. Even with the flowmasters and TT II's. ROFLMAO :lol:

hollowayshotrods
03-04-2008, 06:49 PM
I don't know if I price mine too high or not, but if someone thinks it is to high and wants to make me an offer all I can do is say "no". I have advertised a car too high before to get my wife off my back about having to many cars!! Its advertised, if someone wants it, here it is, if not, no back pain! But, I also have to say I am not going to disrespect a person by telling them what there car should be worth to them ,I only know what it is worth to me. I as well as everyone here has overpaid for something they WANTED and not needed. Like tham daxx boat of mine! Anyone interested in a boat? Ok different subject.

olds48
03-04-2008, 07:35 PM
:D We don't all have your money,Rudy.But I will in a little bit :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Oldewalnut
03-05-2008, 03:57 AM
But, I also have to say I am not going to disrespect a person by telling them what there car should be worth to them ,I only know what it is worth to me. .

This is a very good comment. Hope you don't mind that I lifted it out of you post.

The crux of this is, WHY do many people out there post a sale but give NO price? Wanting the prospective buyer to make them an offer? That's just plain dumb. If you're selling something, YOU know how much you'd like to get, put it out there, give us something to work with. Or, better yet, if it's not in our price range, we don't either waste each others time or more to the point, how many offers have you, the seller, potentially missed?

Another thing, ads with no photos. Parts are another matter, we should all know what a set of rods, a crank, a transmission, et al; look like. I can call and talk with you, if I'm in the market for these. But, if you're advertising a vehicle, I want, at least a rudimentery shot, again, give us something to work with. Just like looking for a woman at the bar, a little eye candy goes a long way.

I've stated before, the car auction shows have inflated prices.

olds48
03-05-2008, 04:23 AM
I personally like to see a picture of anything.I know what you mean about rods and cranks.But with so many scammers out there I put up pictures of everything.Kinda like saying"hey,I really do have this,not just trying to rob you".But that's just me.

farnson
03-08-2008, 05:17 AM
I had an older Chevy PU that got totaled, I used it to haul construction debris from my work sites. The insurance co gave me $1400.00. I can't find a similar truck for less than $3500.00. They said they don't go by KBB which says the truck was worth $2700.00.

JPdustnya72
03-17-2008, 05:46 AM
Amen on the BJ comments. A bunch of drunk rich guys who would fall out of a decent straight liner if he tried to drive it.

mopar1968
03-20-2008, 08:14 AM
Prime example of trade price see ad#1155037 :lol: :lol:

olds48
03-20-2008, 01:43 PM
Prime example of trade price see ad#1155037 :lol: :lol:

Makes alot of sense,don't it?? :roll: