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Gearhead68z
01-27-2008, 11:43 AM
I figure it's time to switch to a bbc. I'd like about 10:1, Dart 9.8 Big M,brodix 2xtra heads, and so on. My first question is how many ci can you get out of the 9.8 deck dart. I'd like a 598 4.5x4.6 with a 6.535+ rod, and flat top pistons, is that possible with the 9.8 deck?
Pwmax
01-27-2008, 02:04 PM
588 is about the biggest from a 9.8 deck. Thats a 4.375 crank, and a 4.625 bore.
Frank
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russ67chevelle
01-30-2008, 07:36 AM
if i was u,id keep in mind that with a lot of chevy crossmembers,getting a tall deck in is a pain in da rear!!!if not impossible.if you have a tube chassis car then crossmember doesnt apply!!!BONUS!!! but lots of 540 shot block kits out there if your on a budget!short block 540 start at about 3300 unassembled and go up from there.
OneBadGMC
01-30-2008, 07:39 AM
if i was u,id keep in mind that with a lot of chevy crossmembers,getting a tall deck in is a pain in da rear!!!if not impossible.if you have a tube chassis car then crossmember doesnt apply!!!BONUS!!! but lots of 540 shot block kits out there if your on a budget!short block 540 start at about 3300 unassembled and go up from there.
Can you explain this a little better? The block, to my knowledge, only changes ABOVE the water pump inlet.
Frame cross members below the motor are unaffected to my knowledge.
Maybe I'm missing something?
curtisreed
01-30-2008, 09:26 AM
if i was u,id keep in mind that with a lot of chevy crossmembers,getting a tall deck in is a pain in da rear!!!if not impossible.if you have a tube chassis car then crossmember doesnt apply!!!BONUS!!! but lots of 540 shot block kits out there if your on a budget!short block 540 start at about 3300 unassembled and go up from there.
Can you explain this a little better? The block, to my knowledge, only changes ABOVE the water pump inlet.
Frame cross members below the motor are unaffected to my knowledge.
Maybe I'm missing something?
I think he means you can't drop the motor to provide clearance above.
Curtis
hammertime
01-30-2008, 11:50 AM
I figure it's time to switch to a bbc. I'd like about 10:1, Dart 9.8 Big M,brodix 2xtra heads, and so on. My first question is how many ci can you get out of the 9.8 deck dart. I'd like a 598 4.5x4.6 with a 6.535+ rod, and flat top pistons, is that possible with the 9.8 deck?
If you want to go big build a 582 4.375 x 4.600 Either way you dont have enough head IMO so a smaller motor might be a better option 4.25 x4.560 to make a 555.
russ67chevelle
02-22-2008, 11:27 AM
4.375 is probably about the biggest arm youd wann put in a short deck.thats why the next size larger(4.5 inch stroke)is used in tall decks.ive heard that 4.5"oil pan fitments in stock bodied cars can be a pain.friend has 66 chevelle and he said his 572 tall deck was a beiotch to install with oil pan to crossmember issues.thats all.i agree 540 is a good combo.
joe sherman put a pump gas 540 together and got 752 torque and 829 horsepower at 6500 rpms with the 315 cnc afr heads.
sc3314
02-23-2008, 03:36 AM
For a larger C/I motor in a 9.80 deck the stroke and rod are the problem. 4.375 on the crank and 4.385 on the rod. The bore doesn't matter, but why would you MAX the bore out in a new block. If you have a problem, you will not only be buying parts. But also a new block, or you will be putting sleeves in. As hammer said, the heads will be a problem above a 572 C/I
The problem is in the oil pan with larger C/I motors in a stock front stub. With the larger stroke and rod, you can no longer run a standard rear sump pan. If you are taking that step up to a larger C/I BBC Have the front stub done by a good chassis builder.
The front cross member has to be done, plate it, and change the steering box over to a rack. You may also be changing the front springs. Then the next issue you will have is headers if you go with a T/D So, YES C/I does cost $$$$ in more ways than just building a motor!
Good luck