Has anyone seen these ad's

[zipper06]

Ad's for an engine diaper, now required in sportman classes @ $149.50.
It says they are NHRA approved but i see no SFI tag, is it a hoaks or does NHRA now approve a diaper without certification.

DRE if you are listening, i would love see a reply.

Zip.


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[hammertime]

I copied this from another site and I do own a non-sfi diaper also.


Ok 2008 rule book....you read the ET section under "oil retention device" its says any vehichle "permitted" to run one see general regulations 1.8...SOOO...you go to General Regualtion 1.8 and all it does is lay out the spec for the device...it doesnt say a word about what vehicles are "permitted" to run one....and exaclty what does "permitted" mean here??? Does permitted mean its an OPTION???(I know it doesnt but it reads that way)


OK....just spoke to the Head Div 3 tech....here is the deal...they are "permitted" meaning you can CHOOSE to run one....BUT they are NOT REQUIRED on non advanced ET cars.

They ARE required on S/G, S/C, ADv ET...etc...

So the 9.99 rumor is NOT true.

[zipper06]

Thanks David,
But that rule is very vege, meaning that that they could disqualify the car in tech inspection, depending on who is inspecting the car. I know that they are not required in some classes, but i still think they should meet SFI if they are reguired, and not advertised, as NHRA approved.

I also have the 2008 rule book, since i'm a lic. NHRA driver.

Zip.

[johnracer]

NHRA has a list of accepted diapers on their website. Some are SFI certified and some aren't. They also have rule revisions that pertain to oil retention devices.....

[shawnp]

DRE is legit and 1st class. I got to meet them at PRI and talk to them. There diaper is NHRA approved. I know this because the tech guy at the NHRA booth sent me around the corner to see DRE.

Per this years rules, it is RECOMMENDED and NOT REQUIRED. The only time you are required a NHRA APPROVED diaper is 7.50 or faster which is advanced ET, comp, S/C and S/G racing. The SFI tag is not mandatory until you hit the alcohol and up classes. However, you should consult your home track or any place you plan to race. I know that as of right now, Norwalk( Summit Motorsports Park) required SFI approved on cars running 9.99 and faster in Super Pro and Comp.

[bbchevy]

GOOD POST!
I had seen this Ad also,and since i'm Needing a Diaper this Topic is Very Needed!!!
THANKS Again!
Greg 8)

[curtisreed]

Ad's for an engine diaper, now required in sportman classes @ $149.50.
It says they are NHRA approved but i see no SFI tag, is it a hoaks or does NHRA now approve a diaper without certification.

DRE if you are listening, i would love see a reply.

Zip.


http://img31.picoodle.com/img/img31/4/1/12/t_31196683311m_409d91c.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/4/1/12/f_31196683311m_409d91c.jpg&srv=img31)

Zip,
They have both SFI approved and non-approved. I just bought the 149.00 diaper (was 164.00 with shipping) because it is only for my peace of mind.

Curtis

[Scotty2]

Ad's for an engine diaper, now required in sportman classes @ $149.50.
It says they are NHRA approved but i see no SFI tag, is it a hoaks or does NHRA now approve a diaper without certification.

DRE if you are listening, i would love see a reply.

Zip.


http://img31.picoodle.com/img/img31/4/1/12/t_31196683311m_409d91c.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/4/1/12/f_31196683311m_409d91c.jpg&srv=img31)

Zip,
They have both SFI approved and non-approved. I just bought the 149.00 diaper (was 164.00 with shipping) because it is only for my peace of mind.

Curtis

The non-approved are for your gensets with the 15' high exhaust pipe....what a bunch of BS ! :roll:

[hammertime]

I sent a messege to price a SFI diaper and he tried to explain that I did not need one in any class super class or not, I sure hope he isnt telling others this.

All .. Super Classes 8.90 9.90 10.90 and Top Dragster/ Top Sportsman classes do need a SFI diaper, and on top of that any advanced ET cars running faster then 7.49 1/4 & 4.49 1/8th does need a SFI diaper also...
:D

[shawnp]

I sent a messege to price a SFI diaper and he tried to explain that I did not need one in any class super class or not, I sure hope he isnt telling others this.

All .. Super Classes 8.90 9.90 10.90 and Top Dragster/ Top Sportsman classes do need a SFI diaper, and on top of that any advanced ET cars running faster then 7.49 1/4 & 4.49 1/8th does need a SFI diaper also...
:D

David,

That is not correct. They only require an NHRA APPROVED diaper. The SFI is not rquired until you for TA/D or better. The only place that I know requires the SFI approved diaper for 9.99 and faster is Norwalk for Super Pro and Comp.

[hammertime]

I sent a messege to price a SFI diaper and he tried to explain that I did not need one in any class super class or not, I sure hope he isnt telling others this.

All .. Super Classes 8.90 9.90 10.90 and Top Dragster/ Top Sportsman classes do need a SFI diaper, and on top of that any advanced ET cars running faster then 7.49 1/4 & 4.49 1/8th does need a SFI diaper also...
:D

David,

That is not correct. They only require an NHRA APPROVED diaper. The SFI is not rquired until you for TA/D or better. The only place that I know requires the SFI approved diaper for 9.99 and faster is Norwalk for Super Pro and Comp.

Shawn one of is getting bad info from NHRA then, SFI is required for all super classes, td classes in both NHRA and IHRA . I have a non sfi diaper that used to be good to use and I called to make sure it was and got a no go.

[johnracer]

If you go NHRA.com, mouse over to rules, scroll down the list to "accepted oil retention devices", click, and download the list, you'll find a list of all currently accepted diapers and the classes that require what.....I'm sure the rule states "NHRA accepted oil retention device mandatory" in Supergas, Supercomp, & advanced et. It doesn't say SFI approved just NHRA accepted. The list says the same.

[shawnp]

http://nhra.com/tech_specs/retention/retention.xls

[hammertime]

thanks guys .. now onto checking IHRA specs

it proves again not every tech guy says the samething

[zipper06]

This is the list now posted on NHRA rules updated today.

Zip.

Oil Retention Device Class Specification List
Class NHRA Accepted SFI Spec 7.2 SFI Spec 7.1
Sportsman Premitted Premitted Premitted
Pro Premitted Premitted Premitted
Super Pro Premitted Premitted Premitted
Advanced E.T. Required Premitted Premitted
Top Dragster Required Premitted Premitted
Top Sportsman Required Premitted Premitted
Stock Eliminator Premitted Premitted Premitted
Super Stock Eliminator Premitted Premitted Premitted
Super Street Premitted Premitted Premitted
Super Gas Required Premitted Premitted
Super Comp Required Premitted Premitted
Competition Eliminator Required Premitted Pro Modifieds
Top Alcohol Funny Car Prohibited Prohibited Required
Top Alcohol Dragster Prohibited Prohibited Required
Pro Stock Motorcycle Required Premitted Premitted
Pro Stock Cars Required Premitted Premitted
Funny Car Prohibited Prohibited Required
Top Fuel Prohibited Prohibited Required
NHRA Accepted List Oil Retention Device (Updated 01/15/2008)
Manufacture Phone Number NHRA Accepted SFI Approved
Champion Racing Engines 317-335-2491 Yes No
DJ Safety 323-221-0000 Yes 7.2
DRE 217-454-5289 Yes 7.2
Engine Diapers R US 805-610-1340 Yes No
Harper's Upholstery 505-4373293 Yes No
J & J Performance 330-567-2455 Yes 7.2
Powell Racing Equipment 419-542-8821 Yes No
RamJet Racing Products 513-738-0891 Yes 7.2
RCI 909-939-1908 Yes 7.2
Russler II Racing 951-488-4200 Yes No
Security Racing Products 425-557-6508 Yes Yes
Stroud Safety 405-632-2022 Yes Yes
Taylor Motorsports 714-630-7850 Yes Yes
Vanson Leathers 508-678-2000 Yes No

[Racefab57]

What I love is today ones ok, next yr NO....

[johnracer]

Very true. That's why I nutted up and bought a SFI 7.2 diaper.....it's good for 5years

[hammertime]

Very true. That's why I nutted up and bought a SFI 7.2 diaper.....it's good for 5years
I think thats what I am going to do also, just be done with it.

[Tod74]

Very true. That's why I nutted up and bought a SFI 7.2 diaper.....it's good for 5years

Good for five years? What is going to "wear out" on it that would make it a necessity to replace it?

[lively]

nhra needs a steady income from the kickbacks for selling them---IT AIN'T OVER YET!!!---PRETTY SOON YOU WILL USE ALL THERE STATED PRODUCTS AND APPROVED BUILDERS OR YOU WON'T RUN :? :? ---LIVELY

[hammertime]

Best Deal I've found so far on a SFI 7.2 Diaper is $214.xx from jegs for a J&J ... very good deal IMO

[zipper06]

Very true. That's why I nutted up and bought a SFI 7.2 diaper.....it's good for 5years
I think thats what I am going to do also, just be done with it.

Sounds like a good plan, i'll just bet that next yr. they'll have to have a SFI on them in the 9.90 index and below. :?


Zip.

[Racefab57]

EXACTLY Zip!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hammertime]

i think so also

[tazracing]

NHRA RULES YOU DO NOT HAVE TO RUN DIAPER UNLESS YOU ARE ADVANCED ET OR RUNNIG THROTTLE STOP CAT. OR IF TRACK HAS THE RULE. SO MOST BRACKET RACE YOU DONT EVEN HAVE TO RUN THEM. I CALLED DIV 1 NHRA OFFICE AND CONFIRMED.