more chinese stuff

[deepockets]

ya know for all the people that like to try to keep our money in the us and employe us citizens, here's a new one. i just recieved a new simpson bandet helmet to comply with the nhra 9.99 and quicker rule and upon recieving my helmet i find a sticker that says made in china. now i'm not saying it's not inspected and tested for saftey, only that it should be made public notice of it's origin before purchasing for all the people that fell as i do. i wonder if the paint if that's what it is, would be lead free like some chinese toys? could you imagine a day that the salesman might say, US OF FORIEN MADE! just like press 1 for english! i'm done here. just wonder what it will be like 50 years from now

[OneBadGMC]

Where do you think that computer was made that you're posting on now?

[deepockets]

indoneisia, sad is'nt it

[gnsrule]

Where do you think that computer was made that you're posting on now?

Id rather have my head in an american made helmet than my computer box anyday.

[RonOwensRacing]

I hear that a lot that i dont want stuff made in china well if they inspect a lot of parts on there race cars they will find out that a lot of there parts that they thought was made here is not.
Check on some of your MSD stuff and how big of name is that.

[OneBadGMC]

Here's the problem, which I think is misplaced.

We, as in the USA, have turned from a manufacturing based society to a consumer based society.

We've done this because of labor costs within this country. Business owners within this company have exploited the fact that 3rd world country labor rates are vastly less than ours.

To further this issue, the government has not put into a place any means to stop this, as it would be "against the spirit of the capitalistic enterprise system".

We have nobody to blame for this except us (us meaning the citizens of the USA) who continue to lust for cheap goods and higher pay for our own diminishing jobs.

So, either relish in the delight that your helmet meets SFI specs, and may or may not have been properly quality controlled overseas or within the USA by the importer, or come up with a means to start a manufacturing plant making the goods we need.

It's really easy to sit back and spectate and complain about the bad plays... It's totally different to pick up the ball and run with it.

[RonOwensRacing]

That is very much true .

I know a lot of people that would like to have the top name brands in the race parts but we also have a budget to work with and when you start looking at the brands like crower stef's jessel T&D Cola Dart world just to name a few these parts are also top of the price line .
And i also know that a lot of people dont really need these kind of parts for the power they are making but they dont want the cheaper parts because they think they are no good and in a lot of case's this just isn't so .

I have two years running on a set of 140.00 dollar rocker arms and they still are good with a 800 lift cam shaft now are they as good as a set of crowers no i dont think so but they also dont cost a thousand dollars either .

But like you said we all are to blame for it but we all dont want to work our tails off for no pay so we are kinda in a catch 22 we all we pay in one way or the other.

[lanham]

I think the U.S. sold out long ago.Look around,do you see many of the good paying American factories still around,if there is there's not many left.Most factories going strong today is Japanese Companies.Look at Toyota they move in to the U.S and is close to dominating the American car manufactures.I don't care how good or bad a foreign vehicle is supposed to be i am not going to buy one but obviously everyone else does.America has give their dollar to Japan.Now i understand that they employ alot of Americans and thats good because there wouldn't be nowhere to work but i do think that if there wasn't such thing as the American way that things would be different.People talk about Chinese cranks and rods,they are made with American steel because that is who is buying up all of our scrap causing a big demand driving up scrap prices and making all the products that we buy new cost us even more.

[slowmotion]

I don't think there is even a helmet made in America. Most if not all helmets come from Taiwan, china, and Italy.

[cepx111]

I like that show on the travel called "Made in Ameircan" by John Ratzenberger, that show is proof that the american maufactorer is still alive and well just not in the big factories we were used to seeing on the 50 60 and 70's.
I worked for GE which is one of the biggest American based companies in the world for almost 10 years only to have them shut down our lamp making plant, box it up and move operations over sea's. there was no shame and no loyality to jobs here the only thing that matters is the bottom line. I dont buy anything GE anymore.
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[curtisreed]

I would like to brag on the company I work for. I'm the shop supervisor of our machine shop. Our company makes our own product line of equipment to test, sample, or measure oil. It is a third generation privately owned company that celebrated it's 80th anniversary September of 2006.

With the price of oil you can imagine how busy we are. I keep hiring new people thinking I will get ahead of orders but we are still behind. I have been here 20 yrs. last Nov. 30th and they couldn't run me off with a stick. Just wanted to show there are still a few American companies doing good and serving America. Our overseas market and biodiesel market have probably tripled in the last 2 yrs. Guess we will just ride the wave for now.

http://www.wlwalker.com

Curtis

[v8Fiero]

I might be against the grain a bit but I see most of this outsourcing as the US is growing for good not bad. Try looking at it this way 8)

The US makes BIG important things like airplanes, cars, and new inventions. We are the most highly developed country in the world and we dont have time focus on minor manufacturing. Our time is to valuble to be manufacturing T-shirts.

while growing 3rd world countries (like China, India, Singapore, etc) NEED money and make smaller things that the US cant afford to make anymore since we are focusing on the bigger things. they make items that are more easily produced like T-shirts, computers, helmets, other cheap stuff.

Would you want to have the US fall behind on evolution and stick to making T-shirts or would you rather send those cheap easily reproduced items to somebody that would happily make them for $5 a day?

Basically we invent a product (like computers), sent it over seas to be produced for cheap, and buy them back so our citizens can afford to have these luxuries that would otherwise be impossible for them to afford. and thus we keep growing AND helping other countries grow.

PS, it might not sound like it but I am a Democrat. We dont need a war to help other countries, lol.

[rsrsfishslayers]

Next time you go to a harley store look on the back of the the part you will see made in china I love to see the old bikers look at guys putting around on hondas and say something like why dont you buy US check the package... :evil: :evil:

[lively]

BASICLY IT GETS DOWN TO THIS---WE FIGHT WARS IN THE PAST TO GET OUR FREEDOM/WE FIGHT WARS TO PROTECT OUR HOMELAND/SCUMBAGS COME IN OUR COUNTRY AND ATTACK US AND WE FIGHT BACK [BLEEDING HEARTS GRIPE BECAUSE WE DO]--IF WE KEEP ALLOWING OUR PRODUCTS AND COMPANIES TO GO OVERSEAS THE SAME PEOPLE WE FOUGHT AGAINST WILL WIN OVER OUR COUNTRY BY BREAKING US FROM THE INSIDE---I HAVE LOST TOO MANY RELATIVES/ FAMILY/ AND GOOD FRIENDS[GOOD SOLDIERS]TO BUY FORIEGN PRODUCTS ANY MORE THEN I HAVE TO---PUT THE TARRIFS AND TAXES BACK ON THESE COMPANIES LIKE IT SHOULD BE AND THEY WILL BUILD MORE PLANTS HERE AND HIRER MORE SKILLED WORKERS HERE AND MAKE US THE TRUE UNITED STATES THAT WE USE TO BE AND STILL CAN BE!!!!---MY 2 CENTS WORTH AND THEN SOME 8) 8) --DENNIS;[ LIVELY IN ILLINOIS-USA]

[bubbabbc]

I agree with the statement about t-shirts, along with sunglasses, kids toys, and misc $10 items. But what about cars, trucks, agricultural, mining, and construction equipment, along with ocean-going ships, and machine tools. Not quite the same as t-shirts. The sad fact is in a few years we won't even have the ability to operate the machinery used to manufacture the weapons to defend ourselves.

[Tod74]

I might be against the grain a bit but I see most of this outsourcing as the US is growing for good not bad. Try looking at it this way 8)

The US makes BIG important things like airplanes, cars, and new inventions. We are the most highly developed country in the world and we dont have time focus on minor manufacturing. Our time is to valuble to be manufacturing T-shirts.

while growing 3rd world countries (like China, India, Singapore, etc) NEED money and make smaller things that the US cant afford to make anymore since we are focusing on the bigger things. they make items that are more easily produced like T-shirts, computers, helmets, other cheap stuff.

Would you want to have the US fall behind on evolution and stick to making T-shirts or would you rather send those cheap easily reproduced items to somebody that would happily make them for $5 a day?

Basically we invent a product (like computers), sent it over seas to be produced for cheap, and buy them back so our citizens can afford to have these luxuries that would otherwise be impossible for them to afford. and thus we keep growing AND helping other countries grow.

PS, it might not sound like it but I am a Democrat. We dont need a war to help other countries, lol.

No disrespect intended here....but

I worked at a factory for 12 years right after high school. They were very profitable and had plants all over the world. In 2004 they closed down the plant I worked at. Some of our business went to Mexico and other places. Almost 1000 people were terminated. Many of them had worked for that company all their adult life and had no education and no skills other than as a button pusher in that plant. I was fortunate enough to learn a skilled trade while there and I actually found a much better paying job..but I am in my early 30's. Finding another deceent paying job with no education when you are 50-60 yrs old isn't that easy.Many went bankrupt and lost everything.

Go tell them how "good" out sourcing is for our country. :?