What do you guys think of this engine?

[Blue68Camaro]

Thinking about buying it. Says it is 500HP

PREMIUM GM 4 BOLT BLOCK
CNC BORED AND MILLED USING A RMC V-40
BLOCK IS PERFORMANCE PREPPED AND FILLED WITH BLOCK CRETE FOR EXTRA STRENGTH
JE FORGED 2618 FLAT TOP PISTONS
FORGED 4340 RODS
CUSTOM STROKE CRANK
BRAND NEW GM / CHEVY PRO COMP ALUMINUM HEADS
HI FLOW 210 cc INTAKE RUNNERS
STAINLESS STEEL 2.02 X 1.6 VALVES
SCREW IN STUDS W/ GUIDE PLATES
HEAVY DUTY STAINLESS STEEL ROLLER ROCKERS
CUSTOM VALVE COVERS, TIMING CHAIN COVER AND CUSTOM OIL PAN
THIS ENGINE IS RATED AT JUST OVER 500 HP 550 FT.LBS

[edvancedengines]

PREMIUM GM 4 BOLT BLOCK
CNC BORED AND MILLED USING A RMC V-40
BLOCK IS PERFORMANCE PREPPED AND FILLED WITH BLOCK CRETE FOR EXTRA STRENGTH
JE FORGED 2618 FLAT TOP PISTONS
FORGED 4340 RODS
CUSTOM STROKE CRANK
BRAND NEW GM / CHEVY PRO COMP ALUMINUM HEADS
HI FLOW 210 cc INTAKE RUNNERS
STAINLESS STEEL 2.02 X 1.6 VALVES
SCREW IN STUDS W/ GUIDE PLATES
HEAVY DUTY STAINLESS STEEL ROLLER ROCKERS
CUSTOM VALVE COVERS, TIMING CHAIN COVER AND CUSTOM OIL PAN
THIS ENGINE IS RATED AT JUST OVER 500 HP 550 FT.LBS

If it is dirt cheap. Go for it.

Too many things about that ad just don't sound right.

No certain product brands or descriptions.

Cahnces are likely that by the sound of the ad, they just might not own any CNC equipment, and if they do it seems strange to tie it up doing menial tasks like boring blocks.

Frankly like I said, if it is cheap how can you go worng even if you have to pull it apart and verify the clearances.

To me it looks like the ad is worded by someone who has no clue and I doubt that engine will come close to 500 hp. PAW did a 406 and it did just a little over 425 hp years ago for a crate motor. Who knows maybe those cylinder heads will mke it step up and run a number but I doubt it.

You have no promises of anything except what head brand is used. Everything else is called Heavy Duty, CNC, Premium, Custom, Forged 4340, Hi-Flow, I do see they are claiming JE 2618 pistons. Sonuds odd to me. Most would be using the SRP/JE pistons which are not flat top in a 2618 version.

The description of their block filler is a turn off too. Hard Block or Moroso only. No grout. no concrete.

Sorry,
You asked for an opinion.

Ed

[zipper06]

I'm with ED, on this one.
You don't say how big the engine is, but why would they even put block filler in the motor at all.
Also theres too many variables on what parts are used, and you aslo didn't say what the price is. You can buy those parts for less than $3,000.00, but you wouldn't be getting good quality parts, like you can buy 4340 rods for less than $300.00 or you can pay $600.00 for good quality rods.

Just my .02

Zip.

[topsportsman1]

You can buy a custom stroke crank for 299.00 too

It sounds like a big dissapointment to me as well as junk

You got a link to the add for the engine?

[chevguy65]

Sounds like an ebay ad I have seen.

If you are looking for an engine, place a wanted classified out on RJ classifieds, I think you can do better.

Besides there are some awesome builders right here in this forum.

[Blue68Camaro]

It was on Ebay. It was a SBC 427 and went for $3200, of course that wouldnt have included shipping. I didnt bid becuase i could not get a response from the seller of any of my questions. That dont mean anything though as its labor day and alot of people arent around.

Here is a link to it:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=004&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=140150987475&rd=1

[topsportsman1]

I think you did good to let that pass by,

An engine of that caliber would cost upwards of 8,000 from carb to pan,but you definatly will have a real nice engine.

Don't be fooled by the low prices,it just might cost you double and then some.

Read the user feedback part of the site,I'd also reccomend asking us here if you find some thing that interests you.It might save you some grief and money.Beware who you give your hard earned money to.

And yes there are some good builders here on the site that have built combos like what you are looking for.

[cj422]

hey guys, i too agree bad deal, my 422 block was machined on the rmc v30 and with filler, splayed mains align bored and honed plus clearanced for 3.875 crank and painted with bearings it cost me $510 just for that. www.rmcengine.com

[edvancedengines]

This is a High Performance Chevy 427. Cam has a NICE LOPELY RACE IDLE AND A GREAT POWER BAND THAT MAKES PLENTY OF TORQUE. Compression is around 11.5 TO 1. THIS IS A RACE ENGINE THAT IS RECOMMENDED TO USE WITH RACE FUEL. IT WILL RUN ON PREMIUM PUMP FUEL WITH THE RIGHT TIMING. THIS ENGINE WILL FIT IN SEVERAL YEAR MODELS. PLEASE ASK IF IT WILL WORK WITH YOUR SET UP. We can customize for the winning bidder after auction or the winner can finish it on there own. We will crate it up for $80.00. We can have it shipped to most of USA for $200 to $350. We also have 327 334 340 355 383 400 406 409 413 sbc race or street just let us know what you need. No CORE Required!! We accept cashiers checks, money order, wire transfer. $500 DOWN Payment must be made within 7 days. LAYAWAY ALSO AVAILABLE. Bidders with less than 10 feedback need to get permission via E-mail. Questions welcome.



Well that is a cheap price. Maybe at 427 cu in it might make that 500 hp who knows.

I notice he takes lay=awake paments. Seems like that is mostly what I end up doing too. Well if he is suing enough of a stroke to get that 427 cu in he muct be using sime kind of an aftermarket crank and rods. Maybe he is buying up the defect Import stuff that Eagle, and the others put on sale.

I can't do a 427 even using Eagle for that in parts cost.

Hmm'

Ed

[zipper06]

It's your money but i wouldn't touch it, the carnk is probably a 5140 crank. You really can't buy good Chinese parts for that price, and know that they meet specs. Again i'm not knocking the builder, but he's going to build the motor on your money, after you pay him and maybe it will be delivered in 2 wks. but maybe in 6 weeks. Again it's your money and i think you have had some good advice here.

Just my .02

zip.

[edvancedengines]

Maybe you would be better off here to name your budget and your expetations so we can see if anyone here coulld help you. I have been known to work cheap but not that cheap.

I am thinking they must have a bunch of old Chevy Blocks and Heads to use. Cast Chevy head on a 427 makes no sense to me. Actually a 427 is not making much sense with 11.50-1 compression and claming it can can have timing reduced and drive it on the street. Not going to happen.

I am currently doing two completely different SB Strokers. One is a tried and proven combination for me of a 418 - 423 cu in version and the other is a 422 cu in version. Both are using alum heads and roller cams with Eagle Rods, BRC Pistons, Total Seal Rings, Canfield Alum heads and one should be a 530 hp at 10.30- 1 compression to burn 89 octane gas. Tried and proven. The other is 11.00-1 compresion using 92 octane gas with est 560 to 570 hp with .600 lift roller and that is also tried and proven.

I ahve done economical 383 but never an engine that I can sell for under 3,500 .

Maybe it is a good deal.Who knows.

Ed

[Blue68Camaro]

I dont know either. He has good feedback and i contacted a couple of his customers who says good things. The heads are aluminum Pro Comps. Dont matter now any way since the motor is sold.

I guess my budget is about $4500 for right now. And i have to have 500HP w/ forged gear since i want to run a 200 shot of NOS. I think i will get a better deal if i go used rather than a brand new motor. There are all types of reasons why people sell their motors while they are still good.

I will just keep looking.

[zipper06]

I sell the heads for $650.00/$750.00 depending on what springs you want. So you could build that motor for what he was asking for it, but i too now doubt the HP.

Zip

[qtrmile2]

Got a good deal on a SBC 427. AD #946294

[Blue68Camaro]

How about this one? Supposed to be 685 HP??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3AWNA%3AMT%3A12&viewitem=&item=120154850740

[chevguy65]

How about this one? Supposed to be 685 HP??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3AWNA%3AMT%3A12&viewitem=&item=120154850740

Looks ok, but you got a guy that just offered up a sweet 427 and I will tell you Vince is one guy I know will sell you exactly what he says it is. 8)
Lot's of these guys use friendly dyno's to up thier numbers.
No cheap junk, etc and Vince has the credentials on the track, both himself, sons and other family members. They rock stick shift's!!!

Not saying don't buy that ebay engine, just talk to Vince first, you will not be disapointed.

You can also pm Ed of edvancedengines.
I am not soliciting business for them, but since you asked and these fine gent's have offered, and the one Vince has is a sweet engine, and Ed can build just about anything if it can be built, I imagine.

[edvancedengines]

Chevyguy65,
Thanks for the plug. I do not come here soliciting business. Of course I do appreciate it when I am referred or asked but I really do my best to not toot my own horn until after someone is my customer. I can build him something decent though in the price range he is now looking at. I could also build something a little lower for a little less money too. That 427 another memebris selling looks like the best bang for the buck though.

Toe the original poster,
I do not understand your last question about an engine for sale.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3AWNA%3AMT%3A12&viewitem=&item=120154850740

That is above what you siad you can afford. AI think you said 4,500.00

I have no way to know, but AI am guessing that he is guessing about his horsepower and is basing that off of what an engine builder told him he would have if they bought a complete engine from them. Looks to me that he took their guess and becuase he is making everything on top to be bigger is maybe making his own guess. I am also guessing:). Maybe both are real numbers.

He said he did that engine for a truck. He is lucky he did not install it. That engine in a heavy truck would have been a dog. In a lighter vehicle it might be nice.

One of the other members is showing a Racing Junk ad where he is selling a tried and proven 427 cu in engine. Trust me, for what all it has that is cheap. That is a real deal if you can do it. That one is ready and rearing to go now. He has also been highly

Ed

[Blue68Camaro]

Got a good deal on a SBC 427. AD #946294The only thing i dont understand is you are saying its a 427, but on the pinks episode it says you raced a 357 on alky with AFR heads ect.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5brvt9bTZbM

Can you clarify?

[edvancedengines]

Typo error?
Grudge street racing talk?
Never show all your cards to the enemy.

lol

If you can swing the deal, it looks good to me. That other one also doesn't look bad but I'll bet the horsepower is not what they think it is. Hopefully you would stick it in a lighter vehicle.

Or I or maybe toehr builders here can work with you some on a lay-awake deal. I have no problems in using good used heads intakes etc, if the customer is on a tight budget.

But no matter.
That 427 is a swinging deal and it looks like the builder/seller is also highly recommended.

Ed

[Blue68Camaro]

So it is a 427? I thought maybe it was some kind of "error" on the pinks show :)

[qtrmile2]

Thanks alot Carl and Ed for the kind words. As far as the Motor in the Firebird on PINKS it was a 355 during that episode when they ran each other. That motor ran 9.90 130 mph. We pulled that motor out and put the 427 SBC in shortly after the show aired. The motor that is on RJ is the motor Todd has in his car now and is the 427. Sorry, I didn't make that very clear in the AD. Todd has other commitments now, there called a new house and two kids. He needs the cash. That's the only reason the motor is for sale. I just thought if you were looking for a heck of a motor for the price this would be the one. It's still in his car now and it will be until it sells so people can hear it run.