View Full Version : Dyno Flow engine builders
briff308
07-08-2007, 01:34 PM
Has anyone used these guys in HENDERSON, NV to have there engine built and are they any good
Cheers
mytmouz
07-08-2007, 01:37 PM
You decide...
http://forums.racingjunk.com/viewtopic.php?t=2456&start=0
lotsof454sss
07-08-2007, 01:58 PM
Well my friend there is a 21 page thread on the subject just scroll down the threads and there is a days reading about them...RUN RUN RUN as fast as you can....
hammertime
07-08-2007, 02:01 PM
here we go again :lol:
bring the lube if you buy something from them ... you might need it
chevguy65
07-08-2007, 02:05 PM
Has anyone used these guys in HENDERSON, NV to have there engine built and are they any good
Cheers
Oh my.....Dynablow.....the only thing I would buy from them is a pack of lies, that seems like the only thing they are good at.
Hey Briff308 are you looking to build a small or big block?
I may have a good builder for you.
alscoupe
07-08-2007, 03:27 PM
Hope you have a good torque wrench briff308 , Huh guys?
nemesisracing
07-08-2007, 04:40 PM
:evil: I have never dealt with them but judging by these comments, I would say that they are a bunch of weiner heads :!: :!:
"DYNABLOW"-Now that's an original!!
lookingaround
07-08-2007, 05:50 PM
here we go again :lol:
bring the lube if you buy something from them ... you might need it
forget the lube get the sand cause its going to be rough all the way. :shock: :shock:
ultimaboy
08-31-2008, 01:58 PM
Hi Guys
Im in England would anyone like to see some pics of what Scot and his merry men sent me for my hard earnt cash??
mytmouz
08-31-2008, 02:00 PM
Sure...
wlpatterson
09-01-2008, 12:21 PM
Other than those descrepanceys how are they?? LOL LOL
Racefab57
09-01-2008, 01:43 PM
RUN , RUN AS FAST AS YOU CAN TO GET AWAY FROM THEM David.
altailites
09-05-2008, 07:34 PM
Other than those descrepanceys how are they?? LOL LOL My 434 from scott made 748hp single carb made over 30 passes and its still running fine. I would use them again hands down.
lively
09-05-2008, 07:57 PM
ANOTHER SHOW GUEST WHO COMES ON AND DEFENDS SCOTT!!!
YOU HAVE ANY DYNO SHEETS OR SPECS TO SHOW ON HERE? ARE YOU ONE OF THE FEW THAT HAVE GOT NICE ENGINES FROM HIM LATELY OR IS YOUR ENGINE ONE OF THE FIRST BUILDS FROM HIM[ BEFORE HE STARTED PUTTING OUT CRUMMY WORKMANSHIP???]
ALOT OF GUYS HAVE HAD TERRIBLE PROBLEMS THAT HE WOULD NOT BEGIN TO TAKE CARE OF[ LIKE EVEN ANSWERING THE ??? ABOUT THE PROBLEMS]
GET REAL AND FEEL LUCKY YOU GOT A GOOD ONE :oops: :oops:
LIVELY
altailites
09-06-2008, 04:29 PM
Call me what you want but I have been selling parts on racingjunk for years. I just happened to look in this section and seen dynoflo so I posted .all I can tell you it was not his first build and yes I do have dyno sheets and they are from another dyno shop :P .look I not saying hes perfect hell I got screwd by sonnys all I am saying is he built me a solid motor and I would use Scott again he has great prices and some great guys working for him now . good luck and if you have any questions just call 702 812 8173 Troy Cafarohttp://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb129/prost63vette/th07wnPStroy3t-1.jpg
oldcarparts
09-10-2008, 11:45 AM
http://members.boardhost.com/pscaracing1/msg/1221063561.html
Psca is one of his major stomping grounds, so if he has issues there, what's that say about long distance deals? :?:
hammertime
09-10-2008, 12:30 PM
The guys that defend what he has done to other racers are right in there with him ...
There is pages of bad deals he has done to people .. on several sites !!
hollowayshotrods
09-10-2008, 12:42 PM
The power of the internet! Flush out the bad guys!
Ton1961
05-26-2009, 10:34 AM
Hi guy,s Iam from The Netherlands and new here ! .
I have ordered a stroker ford 557 set and paid in full ( over 7000$ ) and only got 60% of the order ! .
When I cal or mail .Lies,lies,lies , Last April I was for Vacation in Las Vegas and drop them a visit ! .
I was kicked out of the shop ,and the rest,,,,,,,,,, I will not tell here ;( .
Stil no Invoice or missing parts I have reported the Dynoflow at the FBI Internet crime departmend .
There was a lot of problems nown already !!
Ton
ashbros
05-31-2009, 10:14 PM
Hammertime & Looking Around;
I am having a hard time trying to figure out which one of you is the biggest comedian. My ribs are hurting.....LMAO
ratoflic
09-09-2009, 04:29 AM
That's not probably help anybody now...but I was ordering a Shortblock (421 stroker sbc) before to read all the warning here on Racingjunk....I was afraid at first sight.....This guy was correct on all the email...I was sending allot of email and asking allot of question and always be polite on each one...
I was receive the Shorblock last week. Everything seem to look right...seem well machined, Rod clearance to block is allright....The only thing I can tell right now is the crating...Not well crated....but nothing is broken...
I will dissassemble the short block to verified all the clearance (cylinder to wall, between each rod, crankshaft endplay, and wit filler gauge all the bearing clearance....And will give you other spec....
nova72
09-09-2009, 03:08 PM
does any one have good to say about the famous dynoBLOW..........
Scooterz
09-09-2009, 03:40 PM
Okay, so every once in awhile they build a motor decent & make some guy happy... END OF STORY. The rest of the time, they fail, piss people off, hide like cowards, don't return phone calls, don't back up their product, etc... I WOULD BE EMBARRASSED TO COME ON HERE & DEFEND THEM!!!
We are not talking about a few people who had bad dealings or could have blown the motors by their own mistakes; we are talking about a business that should be SHUT DOWN because they screw good people.
No offense, but Lively said it well... "Consider yourself lucky" if this is not your personal experience with DynaBlow.
To me, it is simple... I will not buy DynaBlow, FRAM, maybe even Centerline... I MEAN, HOW MUCH EVIDENCE DO YOU NEED?????? WAKE UP!!!
firepro65
10-06-2009, 09:16 PM
I bought a 540 long block and now it is back there getting whatever. no inner studs were installed like promised, installed motor and all it did was pressurize my radiator, he says I hurt it.( started the motor it got to 200 degrees in 10 minutes of idling so I called him he said don't worry about it. Next morning car is cold, I popped the radiator cap and boom. He said it is fine) And I am the stupid one. Intake was not torqued, used double intake gaskets glued togeather, water in motor, I can go on and on. I live in Vegas so I took it back and he says he will fix it. I hired a business to do a job, if not fixed I will simply sue him. He was rude and employees come and go that should say alot. A girl put mine togeather which I thought was cool. I will update everyone as to what happens.
BEAST477
10-07-2009, 03:42 AM
Good luck. And yes please keep us up to date.
firepro65
10-07-2009, 08:47 AM
I will, he said about a week. The funny thing was. When he dynoed it, on the first pull it was lean as hell. He said I hope it was ok. I got it on video. What is sad about the whole thing is, I was going to buy a stage 2 from Shaifiroff but wanted to keep the money in my town, he talked a good game. I am an idiot.
TheRabbit
10-07-2009, 04:36 PM
I will, he said about a week. The funny thing was. When he dynoed it, on the first pull it was lean as hell. He said I hope it was ok. I got it on video. What is sad about the whole thing is, I was going to buy a stage 2 from Shaifiroff but wanted to keep the money in my town, he talked a good game. I am an idiot.
Shafiroff is a quality engine builder. Known for making good power and engines that last. I've never purchased anything from Dynoflow, but have heard some good and bad stories.
jenavet
10-07-2009, 04:43 PM
bad luck out this way as well...a freind bought a 632...2-3 passes was hurt bad...shipped it back to dynablow...they shipped it back...4 passes camshaft broke.i felt real bad for him he lost alot of money on that deal
but my question is how the heck is this guy still in busuiness.??..usually it catches up...either word of mouth or legal issues...the owner has to have some serious sack heading to work each day knowing how many people he has ripped.....and this has been going on for years...i dont get it??
TheRabbit
10-07-2009, 05:06 PM
I looked at his web site a bunch, but if you notice that whenever you "upgrade" the parts you don't pay the difference you pay the full price of the new part. When you add it all up he's not cheaper.
gungho
10-07-2009, 07:30 PM
I almost went with him a couple years back ,talked the talk on the phone.I did a google search ,and well it was over from there.............
hammertime
10-08-2009, 05:20 AM
I will, he said about a week. The funny thing was. When he dynoed it, on the first pull it was lean as hell. He said I hope it was ok. I got it on video. What is sad about the whole thing is, I was going to buy a stage 2 from Shaifiroff but wanted to keep the money in my town, he talked a good game. I am an idiot.
Shafiroff is a quality engine builder. Known for making good power and engines that last. I've never purchased anything from Dynoflow, but have heard some good and bad stories.
Thats not entirely true ... I've owned shaftoff's stuff in the past, I purchased a 434sbc and a buddy purchased a pro series 565bbc. Mine went 16 passes broke oil pickup (hey it happens) got the run around from them and how they had never heard of a sb breaking a pickup .. hmm ok well I paid for a moroso pump and this is a meiling, they send me the right pump and I fix it. 2 weeks later I hear of another guy who had the same motor that broke a pickup 2 weeks before mine did and they told him the samething I got.
Now the 565 this is the good one .. suppose to make 965hp and came with a dyno sheet. It was in the same year/brand dragster as mine, but some how my sb was out running the bb. Many changes later carb/conv and other parts its still running like a 800hp motor. He says o well and races it, breaks a pushrod with 75 passes on it. It gets taking apart, to find the parts he paid for were NOT in the motor, had a very small roller cam, wrong crank/rods/pistons from what he ordered and paid for. Calls them and they say well its been over 90 days sorry nothing we can do. Gets put back together with all new parts (the ones he wanted orginally) and it picked up 3 tenths in the 1/8th ...
so I put them in the same place I put dynoblow ... :shock:
NYES is the only way to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) Have yet to see anything bad about them.
jenavet
10-08-2009, 01:13 PM
hammertime
while your on a roll why dont you talk about apd??
TheRabbit
10-08-2009, 01:31 PM
so I put them in the same place I put dynoblow ...
Guess I'm glad I never bought anything from either of them.
I will say this their are only a few names in mud rcaing that have engines in the top trucks. Steve Schmidt and Steve Vance are no doubt in the top hp makers. And they last. My builder is Vance because he's a friend and I bug him 20 times a week and on race nights. I could help him build my motor and stand next to him when it's on the dyno if I wanted too.
If I have any problems he will answer my call at 1:00 am on a Saturday night to help me out. I wouldn't change builders for that reason alone!!
hammertime
10-08-2009, 04:41 PM
hammertime
while your on a roll why dont you talk about apd??
I love the carbs they build :D :wink:
but will say this .. the motor builder there (Chris) I would trust to do my motor again...
Still hard to beat Nyes for what ya get for the price ya get it at. :D
firepro65
10-20-2009, 02:03 PM
Well dropped my entire motor off, including engine plate, supercharger, ETC... He did not say a word to me when there. He had a employee unload it and he said through this employee 1 to 1 1/2 weeks. I called and was told I could pick it up this Thursday the 22nd of Oct. Ask what they found with no responce. Recap: brand new 540 put in car and started it pressurized cooling system. When car cooled for 24 hours, open radiator cap and it blew everywhere. He says I screwed it up. Bought dynoed turnkey motor installed it and what a piece of shit, water in oil and radiator pressurized. I am not a mechanic, this is why we go to these places and they give you a line of crap like they are your buddy. And when you need help just getting the dam thing started they call you stupid. Anyways, I will let you all know on Friday If the engine is repaired and what was wrong with it. Doubt he will tell me, or just say I broke it. So far other than crappy customer service, he is doing what he said he would. Not holding my breathe though. Until Friday.
firepro65
10-23-2009, 01:58 PM
well picked my motor up from Scott. Has anyone ever seen clear silicone for the intake manifold? It is goobed on like hell. I never have seen clear for the ends on the intake. Please let me know, prior to me installing this in my car. I am hopeing to install it on Saturday morning. He replaced the head gaskets and who knows what. He did not say a word to me when there. So if anyone knows about clear silicone for automotive use please let me know. I dont know much about cars and depend on the pros that I hire. I guess that is my first mistake. I f this dont work I will talk to the guys at NYES see what they can do to help me. Thanks everyone.
DirkaDirka
10-23-2009, 02:09 PM
Now I have never heard of using clear silicone on engines. I have always used the high temp red silicone whenever I work on engines.
TopspeedLowet
10-23-2009, 02:21 PM
Clear silicone adhesive is OK. I use clear silicone adhesive that permatex makes. This stuff is great for racing engines in most cases. Builders often will get permatex or equal in a 14 oz tube for a caulk gun to assemble engines due to there frequent use. They may have got a killer deal on clear this purchase?
As for the coolant, if you just started up once you likely had a air pocket in the block that raced out when you opened the cap. That is, unless you mean that you had coolant everywhere spraying in the engine, then that is another matter. That is not unusual at all with engines running low in the front to trap air in the engine after the first start up and launch coolant out the filler neck when the water pump is off. Jack the front of your car up when you fill coolant and run the pump to perge out all the trapped air in the cooling system and always use a closed system and you will not have trouble unless your cap is not the highest point in your cooling system when the pump is running or if you do not have some kind or bleed in the radiator to remove air.
Bruce
PS. sorry I did not read your entry as well as I should have. The coolant in the oil is bad. The silicone he used may not have been good or something much worse may have happened . I hope things are not as they appear
markdunlap
10-23-2009, 02:29 PM
I prefer Valco aluminum silcone to every brand I have ever tried. It looks good under the manifold and stays in place well. It is a different consistancy than GE based silicones.It sets up faster too.
As far as the clear silicone, I have one customer that uses it on his Blown Hemi engine for everything and it seems to hold up OK.
He uses it because you can buy it in the large 9 ounce tubes and squirt it out of a calking gun. It is much cheaper that way and he uses it in his Heating and Air Conditioning business anyway.
It does work if the surfaces are clean, just looks cheesy to me.
firepro65
10-23-2009, 02:43 PM
Thanks everyone for the responces. I will take pictures and post. I will install the engine in the morning. Hope it is fixed. I would like to give Dyno-flo the benefit of the doubt. He charged me nothing to replace from what I can tell the head gaskets. From multi layer cometics to copper dont know the brand. Hopefully this cures the water in the motor and charging the cooling system. I know it is sad 1000hp and I depend on other people to build it. I can go on record regardless of if the motor is good now or not and say. Dyno-flo has the rudest customer service I have ever dealt with. Scott talks to you like you are stupid, the sad thing is. If he would have spoke to me with resepct, I would have offer to pay for this work he performed. Instead he was a complete failure. Wdll be back saturday afternoon to let you guys know if he did a good job on the motor.
firepro65
10-23-2009, 09:50 PM
quote="altailites"]dude why are you bashing dynoflo when the guy is fixing your motor for free? Scott is not that bad of a guy remember he deals with assholes everyday and maybe he had a bad day when you picked it up . what part of town you live in ? or are you in Reno[/quote]
This guy has a point. But the question should be did he fix it? and why was it a piece of crap to start with.
altailites
10-24-2009, 08:05 AM
quote="altailites"]dude why are you bashing dynoflo when the guy is fixing your motor for free? Scott is not that bad of a guy remember he deals with assholes everyday and maybe he had a bad day when you picked it up . what part of town you live in ? or are you in Reno
This guy has a point. But the question should be did he fix it? and why was it a piece of crap to start with.[/quote] WOW you are an a hole .I was asking you what part of town you live in {in private} so if you were close I could come help you with your motor because it looks like you have no phucking clue what you are doing with a 1000hp motor. and let me guess if the motor has a leak or a water drop you are going to bash Scott again on here before you give him a chance to make it right . Scott has always treated me with respect and it looks like he is trying to make it right with you. now if he tells you to go pound sand thats when you make a post that he phucked you. and here is the scarry part down the road when you need to adj the valves, make jet changes, is this going to be scotts fault if you phuck that up? im just saying :lol:
bubbabbc
10-24-2009, 08:38 AM
I prefer Valco aluminum silcone to every brand I have ever tried. It looks good under the manifold and stays in place well. It is a different consistancy than GE based silicones.It sets up faster too.
As far as the clear silicone, I have one customer that uses it on his Blown Hemi engine for everything and it seems to hold up OK.
He uses it because you can buy it in the large 9 ounce tubes and squirt it out of a calking gun. It is much cheaper that way and he uses it in his Heating and Air Conditioning business anyway.
It does work if the surfaces are clean, just looks cheesy to me.
Where is a good place to buy the Valco silicone?
altailites
10-24-2009, 09:38 AM
I prefer Valco aluminum silcone to every brand I have ever tried. It looks good under the manifold and stays in place well. It is a different consistancy than GE based silicones.It sets up faster too.
As far as the clear silicone, I have one customer that uses it on his Blown Hemi engine for everything and it seems to hold up OK.
He uses it because you can buy it in the large 9 ounce tubes and squirt it out of a calking gun. It is much cheaper that way and he uses it in his Heating and Air Conditioning business anyway.
It does work if the surfaces are clean, just looks cheesy to me.
Where is a good place to buy the Valco silicone?www.dougherbert.com/valcocincinnati-m-331.html
dynoflo
10-24-2009, 10:37 AM
Quite suprised to see you on here, but what else is new for you on this? Let me bring everyone up to speed. We built an engine with his blower. He complained that he had kept burning down the old one [blown head gasket]. Now on this one, we did find that it was extremely lean on the dyno and tuned that to eliminate that problem. He got the engine and asked everyone and their mom how to work on it and tune it. I spent probably 2 hours with him personally. I got tired of it, so he talked to Danny my counter guy for not less than 4 hours more. Over and over and over. Then he would change the tune, and say that someone told him to do it, andwe would say what did you do that for? Then his response is " I don' know anything about engines" Then stop tuning it. I was fed up, and told him well over 2 months ago to bring me the car and I would tune it and get this past us. He did not. Then he decided to work on it and pulled the intkae and when he reinstalled it, he filled up the engine w/ water, and called to say that he had just put in 100.00 worth of oil and that I should do something about it. I said bring the engine down, were are done playing this. So he brought the car, no I said bring the engine. Finally he brings the engine and wants to talk about it over and over. I told him that I am done talking about it. " This is your one freebee", you have played around and played around and wasted a lot of my time and my company's time on this, and we are done with that" So I paid for the tear down, I paid for the parts and I paid for the dyno time, which is my time, my life and my money. I have better shit to do than to try to please some guy who wants to jump up and bash. OK ERIC, HERE IT IS:
SEE, YOU PICKED UP THE ENGINE WITHOUT TALKING TO ME OR COMING UP FRONT TO ASK WHAT WE DID, SO YOUR ASSUMPTIONS ARE WRONG.
NO, IT DIDN'T HAVE A BLOWN HEAD GASKET, MAYBE THE CALCIUM STAINS AROUND YOUR INTAKE MANIFOLD AT ALL 4 CORNERS WOULD HAVE LET YOU KNOW THAT YOU HAD INSTALLED THE INTAKE MANIFOLD WRONG.
yOUR OVERHEATING PROBLEM, FIRST OF ALL, YOU ARE TRYING TO CRUISE W/ 25% OVERDRIVE ON YOUR WORN OUT 871 BLOWER, SECOND YOUR TEMP GAUGE BUNG IS DEADHEADED AT THE REAR OF THE MANIFOLD AND DOES NOT GIVE A TRUE READING OF TEMP
YOU USED A FRAM FILTER AFTER BEING TOLD NOT TO, WE DID HAVE TO EAT A SET OF BEARINGS DUE TO YOUR $%^#
YOU SWITCHED THE SPARKPLUGS [NOW I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT FOR HALF AN HOUR, BUT IF YOU HAD A QUESTION DARTHEADS.COM] I HAD 750" REACH GASKETED PLUGS IN IT, YOU SWITCHED TO TAPER SEAT .460" REACH PLUGS, NO OWNDER IT RAN LIKE SHIT, THE PLUG IS HALF WAY UP THE HOLE. tHE BLACK ON THE PLUGS WOULD HAVE BEEN A SURE SIGN THAT IT WAS IDLING TOO RICH IN 7500FT OF AIR WHEN YOU TOOK IT TO RENO, YOU COULDN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO TURN THE IDLE MIXTURE SCREWS DOWN, BUT YOU SURE COULD DO ALL KINDS OF OTHER THINGS TO MESS IT UP... OHHH YEAH I FORGOT YOU DON;T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ENGINES.
YOU CANNOT IMAGINE HOW UPSET I WAS TO WORK ON AN ENGINE THAT WAS RUNNING GREAT WHEN IT LEFT, TO HAVE YOU SCREW IT UP AND THEN I AM SPENDING MY WED EVENING ON THE DYNO WITH IT WHEN I HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO, BUT I WANTED TO PLEASE A CUSTOMER. I WANTED YOU TO HAVE A POSITIVE EXPERIENCE.
YOU CHICKENS$%T F@#K, NEXT TIME, YOU WILL WANT TO COME AND SAY THANKS TO THE GUY WHO FOOTED THE BILL FOR YOUR B.S. WHEN YOU PICK IT UP...
THEN YOU UNGRATEFUL BIOTCH, YOU GET ON HERE AND QUESTION THE SILICONE GE GEN2 SILICONE SEALS WHERE NOTHING ELSE DOEs, AND SINCE YOU HAD INTAKE ISSUES WITH YOUR USED INTAKE [NOT SUPPLIED BY US] I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU HAD NO MORE ISSUES.
NOW FOR WHAT WE DID TO ELIMINATE YOUR PROBLEMS:
LOCKED OUT THE DISTRIBUTOR @ 28* W/ 8.5:1 THAT SHOULD START EVERYTIME, AND IDLE MUCH CLEANER AND COOLER, I TOLD YOU ABOUT THAT NOT LESS THAN 4 TIMES BUT YOU CAN'T HEAR. [NO ARM CHAIR TUNERS PLEASE VEGAS AND RENO HAVE LOUSY AIR, IT WILL NOT PING ON 28*, MORE OVER HE RUNS RACE GAS AT THE TRACK] I PUT THE RIGHT PLUGS IN THE ENGINE, AND I LEANED OUT THE IDLE MIXTURE SCREWS. I ALSO WENT OUT OF MY WAY TO MAKE SURE YOUR JANKY INTAKE MANIFOLD DOESN'T LEAK.
PEOPLE SAY I HAVE A BAD ATTITUDE, WHEN IT COMES TO PEOPLE LIKE THIS.... YES I DO, AND IF YOU DON;T UNDERSTAND WHY THEN YOU ARE HOPELESS. :twisted:
THANKS FOR LETTING ME KNOW I WASTED MY TIME TRYING TO FACILITATE YOU. WHEN YOU F#$K IT UP AGAIN, MAKE SURE TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR IT.
IF YOU EVEN THINK ABOUT CHANGING THE TUNE ON THIS ENGINE IT WILL GO BACK TO THE "OVERHEATING" THAT YOU CLAIMED BEFORE.
BY THE WAY, MAYBE GET THE SENDER TO A POINT IN THE COOLING SYSTEM. :twisted:
I go the extra mile to make things happen for people. Most of the time guys do appreciate it. I have guys who will not touch their cars, because they only want me to work on it. I have guys who can take direction over the phone 3000 miles or 15000 miles away on open water to make their stuff run hard and clean. Eric, you have shown what a piece of shizit you are. Now back to my Saturday. I have another engine on the dyno that needs to be ready for an upcoming race.
firepro65
10-24-2009, 11:29 AM
Wow Scott, you are a liar. It is a 6-71 and 12.5 % over 54 bottom 48 top do your math. So the fram filter ruined the bearings? Does anyone else here buy that b s? You spoke to me on the phone once for 5 minutes, got the phone records. Danny for 1/2 hour total and he kept telling me you dont want to talk to me as did the girl this friday when I spoke to her. Yea you told me to bring the motor in, I work in vegas and live in reno. So I had to wait to get home to bring the motor back. Did you did you not tell Danny to tell me to just bring it back and you would show me? Show me what. If you weren't the rude prick, I would have gladly paid you for your time. Oh yea those plugs were put in to load on the trailer. The other plugs were burnt to a crisp. watch for the pic in the forum along with video. So thank you for your time oh yea you installed the intake, remember? You dynoed it. It leaked on your workmanship. Not mine. Regardless, thank you for your time and effort. I will update the results after starting it. Only change I made was move timing from 38 to 34. Good luck in the future.
firepro65
10-24-2009, 11:35 AM
Fair enough, I am in vegas. and look at the forums. I am not the only guy having problems. His employees are either lieing or what I am saying is true. Regardless, it took this post to get a responce. His employees told me he does not want to talk to me. Why would I lie? Just pissed at the lack of customer service. I did get a call from a new guy at dynoflo and he was awesome, so maybe thier is hope. If it works great I will say that and say thank you.
This guy has a point. But the question should be did he fix it? and why was it a piece of crap to start with.[/quote] WOW you are an a hole .I was asking you what part of town you live in {in private} so if you were close I could come help you with your motor because it looks like you have no phucking clue what you are doing with a 1000hp motor. and let me guess if the motor has a leak or a water drop you are going to bash Scott again on here before you give him a chance to make it right . Scott has always treated me with respect and it looks like he is trying to make it right with you. now if he tells you to go pound sand thats when you make a post that he phucked you. and here is the scarry part down the road when you need to adj the valves, make jet changes, is this going to be scotts fault if you phuck that up? im just saying :lol:[/quote]
blownalky3
10-24-2009, 11:43 AM
Just an FYI Firepro, view the general forum to see the many, many threads regarding Fram filters and then find the nearest dumpster.
fla1976
10-24-2009, 12:05 PM
http://forums.racingjunk.com/viewtopic.php?t=7762
MEMRACING62
10-24-2009, 12:08 PM
fla1976 ya beat me to it!! :D if eleven pages in the fram thread doesn't convince you nothing will !! :shock:
fla1976
10-24-2009, 12:58 PM
I don't win a reaction time contest very often, thanks, :D
firepro65
10-24-2009, 02:17 PM
You dont know all the facts. He people tell me he does not want to talk. I spoke to him on the phone for 5 minutes and he says 2 hours. So he is correct? How does a oil filter from fram that had less than 10 minutes on it burn the bearings? It can't. Scott installed the manifold and dynoed the motor. How did I make it leak? Because he said I installed it. I have dyno sheets, did I make those up also? I appreciate you defending him. I am sure he stuff is good for the most part. But you are only getting a small piece of what all took place. And in his defence, maybe it is just some of his moron employees. I got a call today from dynoflo. very thankful for that. 775-745-0374 that is my # if you would like to know all the details. I have nothing to hide. I paid alot of money and did not get what I paid for, this makes me a bad guy? I called and called and some of the idiots that work for him said he will just yell at you and does not want to talk to me. Thanks for the time and open your mind before you judge me. I did not get what I paid for. And for the guy who says do it yourself, great small minded thinking. Do you fill your own teeth aswell or go to the dentist? Think before you insult someone.
This guy has a point. But the question should be did he fix it? and why was it a piece of crap to start with.[/quote] WOW you are an a hole .I was asking you what part of town you live in {in private} so if you were close I could come help you with your motor because it looks like you have no phucking clue what you are doing with a 1000hp motor. and let me guess if the motor has a leak or a water drop you are going to bash Scott again on here before you give him a chance to make it right . Scott has always treated me with respect and it looks like he is trying to make it right with you. now if he tells you to go pound sand thats when you make a post that he phucked you. and here is the scarry part down the road when you need to adj the valves, make jet changes, is this going to be scotts fault if you phuck that up? im just saying :lol:[/quote]
gungho
10-24-2009, 02:29 PM
I would like to see a picture of the engine,just to see if it is a 671 or 871..please post one on here..that should clear some of this up.
blownalky3
10-24-2009, 03:39 PM
Firepro
You must not of looked at the very lengthy thread concerning Fram Oil Filters!!!! Go read for a while. And YES, A FILTER CAN TAKE OUT THE BEARINGS IN SECONDS, NOT MINUTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not sticking up for anyone, but he gave you very sound advice on the filter which you clearly chose to ignore. Did you think he just dislikes Fram? Or do you think he was telling you to stay away because he has experience with oil filters causing big dollar engine failures to which Fram will do NOTHING ABOUT????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????
No matter who you choose to build your stuff, ignoring their advise when you admit knowing little about motors is kinda stupid. Just gives the builder ammo to stick it back to you. Wouldn't you rather follow their instructions to the letter and if you had problems what could they say???? You did EVERYTHING they asked right? It also makes for a tense partnership, because who you choose to spend that kind of money with should be someone you trust and who's advise you value not ignore. AGAIN, I AM NOT TAKING SIDES, but do you think his ignoring you and not having a conversation with you had anything to do with not taking his advise and then complaining to HIM?
Trust me, sh!TT happens to the best builders. I have had brand new motors break brand new stuff. Would have happened to whoever got those parts. I can tell you a guy here had his motor break on the dyno before he even got it (from a very well known mountain motor guy) and they called him and told him he needed to pay for new parts. Lets hope you fired it up and all is well.
firepro65
10-24-2009, 04:37 PM
Firepro
You must not of looked at the very lengthy thread concerning Fram Oil Filters!!!! Go read for a while. And YES, A FILTER CAN TAKE OUT THE BEARINGS IN SECONDS, NOT MINUTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not sticking up for anyone, but he gave you very sound advice on the filter which you clearly chose to ignore. Did you think he just dislikes Fram? Or do you think he was telling you to stay away because he has experience with oil filters causing big dollar engine failures to which Fram will do NOTHING ABOUT????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????
No matter who you choose to build your stuff, ignoring their advise when you admit knowing little about motors is kinda stupid. Just gives the builder ammo to stick it back to you. Wouldn't you rather follow their instructions to the letter and if you had problems what could they say???? You did EVERYTHING they asked right? It also makes for a tense partnership, because who you choose to spend that kind of money with should be someone you trust and who's advise you value not ignore. AGAIN, I AM NOT TAKING SIDES, but do you think his ignoring you and not having a conversation with you had anything to do with not taking his advise and then complaining to HIM?
Trust me, sh!TT happens to the best builders. I have had brand new motors break brand new stuff. Would have happened to whoever got those parts. I can tell you a guy here had his motor break on the dyno before he even got it (from a very well known mountain motor guy) and they called him and told him he needed to pay for new parts. Lets hope you fired it up and all is well.
Blown, sorry don't know your name. The advise was not given to me. First I appreciate the responce. I agree that a motor can break at start up, as you said $hit happens. His responce is not entirely honest and correct. First Scott did stand up and look at the engine, for that he is awesome. But It took 2 months of calling and stopping by and talking with Danny and getting the run around. Maybe Scott did not know the issues and how many times I called asking for his expert advise. I do listen when I can talk to Scott. Maybe this is all due to his employees being liars. I dont know. That fram filter was put on so I could load car on trailer, engine trouble long before that. So I wont use fram, I understand this. I started the car up 1 hour ago. drained oil first, had 4 quarts of oil in it. So I put new oil 7 Quarts and it fired right up. Sounds great rough idle but that can be adjusted. He had an employee call me while I was installing it, this was in my opinion classy and showed me something. But in his responce on here I am a biotch stupid mother f u c k er, read it. This is his attitude once he was paid in full. From the begginning he says I screwed the motor up. When you buy a turnkey motor, the name says it all. It leaked from the intake water jackets from the moment i turned it on. Oh by the way, the intake gaskets were 2 .060's glued togeather. I took them to Danny at Dynoflo and showed him. Scott was not there. Danny tried back peddling and gave me .120 intake gaskets and said don't tell Scott he will just yell. Bottom line he built it and I believe now that some of his employees were hiding some stuff from him. But Scott and Dynoflo did stand up to the plate and make the repairs. I will drive it Saturday to see if in deed it is fixed. Thier is alot more history that was not disclosed. But I do appreciate someone from the outside giving thier opinion. My only question is why did it take this forum to get a responce from Scott. I called trying to get help, which I would have gladly paid for. Maybe he should find better employees if that is the problem. I tried, He saw me there twice and would not look at me and stayed in the back. Then talks tough on the computer, instead of when I am there. We will see eachother at the next PSCA race. Maybe he can talk to me then or I will just stop by the shop, If he will come out of the back. Who knows. Thanks for listening. Advice and your opinion are appriciated.
firepro65
10-24-2009, 05:12 PM
Quite suprised to see you on here, but what else is new for you on this? Let me bring everyone up to speed. We built an engine with his blower. He complained that he had kept burning down the old one [blown head gasket]. Now on this one, we did find that it was extremely lean on the dyno and tuned that to eliminate that problem. He got the engine and asked everyone and their mom how to work on it and tune it. I spent probably 2 hours with him personally. I got tired of it, so he talked to Danny my counter guy for not less than 4 hours more. Over and over and over. Then he would change the tune, and say that someone told him to do it, andwe would say what did you do that for? Then his response is " I don' know anything about engines" Then stop tuning it. I was fed up, and told him well over 2 months ago to bring me the car and I would tune it and get this past us. He did not. Then he decided to work on it and pulled the intkae and when he reinstalled it, he filled up the engine w/ water, and called to say that he had just put in 100.00 worth of oil and that I should do something about it. I said bring the engine down, were are done playing this. So he brought the car, no I said bring the engine. Finally he brings the engine and wants to talk about it over and over. I told him that I am done talking about it. " This is your one freebee", you have played around and played around and wasted a lot of my time and my company's time on this, and we are done with that" So I paid for the tear down, I paid for the parts and I paid for the dyno time, which is my time, my life and my money. I have better s to do than to try to please some guy who wants to jump up and bash. OK ERIC, HERE IT IS:
SEE, YOU PICKED UP THE ENGINE WITHOUT TALKING TO ME OR COMING UP FRONT TO ASK WHAT WE DID, SO YOUR ASSUMPTIONS ARE WRONG.
NO, IT DIDN'T HAVE A BLOWN HEAD GASKET, MAYBE THE CALCIUM STAINS AROUND YOUR INTAKE MANIFOLD AT ALL 4 CORNERS WOULD HAVE LET YOU KNOW THAT YOU HAD INSTALLED THE INTAKE MANIFOLD WRONG.
yOUR OVERHEATING PROBLEM, FIRST OF ALL, YOU ARE TRYING TO CRUISE W/ 25% OVERDRIVE ON YOUR WORN OUT 871 BLOWER, SECOND YOUR TEMP GAUGE BUNG IS DEADHEADED AT THE REAR OF THE MANIFOLD AND DOES NOT GIVE A TRUE READING OF TEMP
YOU USED A FRAM FILTER AFTER BEING TOLD NOT TO, WE DID HAVE TO EAT A SET OF BEARINGS DUE TO YOUR $%^#
YOU SWITCHED THE SPARKPLUGS [NOW I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT FOR HALF AN HOUR, BUT IF YOU HAD A QUESTION DARTHEADS.COM] I HAD 750" REACH GASKETED PLUGS IN IT, YOU SWITCHED TO TAPER SEAT .460" REACH PLUGS, NO OWNDER IT RAN LIKE s, THE PLUG IS HALF WAY UP THE HOLE. tHE BLACK ON THE PLUGS WOULD HAVE BEEN A SURE SIGN THAT IT WAS IDLING TOO RICH IN 7500FT OF AIR WHEN YOU TOOK IT TO RENO, YOU COULDN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO TURN THE IDLE MIXTURE SCREWS DOWN, BUT YOU SURE COULD DO ALL KINDS OF OTHER THINGS TO MESS IT UP... OHHH YEAH I FORGOT YOU DON;T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ENGINES.
YOU CANNOT IMAGINE HOW UPSET I WAS TO WORK ON AN ENGINE THAT WAS RUNNING GREAT WHEN IT LEFT, TO HAVE YOU SCREW IT UP AND THEN I AM SPENDING MY WED EVENING ON THE DYNO WITH IT WHEN I HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO, BUT I WANTED TO PLEASE A CUSTOMER. I WANTED YOU TO HAVE A POSITIVE EXPERIENCE.
YOU CHICKENS$%T F@#K, NEXT TIME, YOU WILL WANT TO COME AND SAY THANKS TO THE GUY WHO FOOTED THE BILL FOR YOUR B.S. WHEN YOU PICK IT UP...
THEN YOU UNGRATEFUL BIOTCH, YOU GET ON HERE AND QUESTION THE SILICONE GE GEN2 SILICONE SEALS WHERE NOTHING ELSE DOEs, AND SINCE YOU HAD INTAKE ISSUES WITH YOUR USED INTAKE [NOT SUPPLIED BY US] I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU HAD NO MORE ISSUES.
NOW FOR WHAT WE DID TO ELIMINATE YOUR PROBLEMS:
LOCKED OUT THE DISTRIBUTOR @ 28* W/ 8.5:1 THAT SHOULD START EVERYTIME, AND IDLE MUCH CLEANER AND COOLER, I TOLD YOU ABOUT THAT NOT LESS THAN 4 TIMES BUT YOU CAN'T HEAR. [NO ARM CHAIR TUNERS PLEASE VEGAS AND RENO HAVE LOUSY AIR, IT WILL NOT PING ON 28*, MORE OVER HE RUNS RACE GAS AT THE TRACK] I PUT THE RIGHT PLUGS IN THE ENGINE, AND I LEANED OUT THE IDLE MIXTURE SCREWS. I ALSO WENT OUT OF MY WAY TO MAKE SURE YOUR JANKY INTAKE MANIFOLD DOESN'T LEAK.
PEOPLE SAY I HAVE A BAD ATTITUDE, WHEN IT COMES TO PEOPLE LIKE THIS.... YES I DO, AND IF YOU DON;T UNDERSTAND WHY THEN YOU ARE HOPELESS. :twisted:
THANKS FOR LETTING ME KNOW I WASTED MY TIME TRYING TO FACILITATE YOU. WHEN YOU F#$K IT UP AGAIN, MAKE SURE TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR IT.
IF YOU EVEN THINK ABOUT CHANGING THE TUNE ON THIS ENGINE IT WILL GO BACK TO THE "OVERHEATING" THAT YOU CLAIMED BEFORE.
BY THE WAY, MAYBE GET THE SENDER TO A POINT IN THE COOLING SYSTEM. :twisted:
I go the extra mile to make things happen for people. Most of the time guys do appreciate it. I have guys who will not touch their cars, because they only want me to work on it. I have guys who can take direction over the phone 3000 miles or 15000 miles away on open water to make their stuff run hard and clean. Eric, you have shown what a piece of shizit you are. Now back to my Saturday. I have another engine on the dyno that needs to be ready for an upcoming race.
Wow, read this again. You were suppose to lockout the distributor, you didn;t the first time. You were suppose to install inner head studs, you didn't. Are they in now? I have written quote which I paid for saying this. I called everyone for advise? No just you and Danny. Maybe he never told you. 2 hours on phone< Come on Scott I have the phone bill. I understand you defending your company. I would as well. You might be able to make claims on here an insult me because I don't know much about motors. But you had no problem with my used blower and manifold when you wanted my money. Let;s get past me screwing the motor up and answer with class some question for all to see.
1. why no inner studs when I purchased them?
2.Why glue 2 .60 intake gaskets together instead of 1 .120? ( I showed Danny and still have them)
3. How did I screw it up when all I did is install it just like you took it off your dyno and the exhaust gases got so hot at idle that it melted my plug wires and electrical wiring going to alternator , wires were 10" from headers, again this is on video.
4. This thread is getting old, I would have liked to keep buying from you in the future. But you might want to be honest and think about how your employees represent you and how you speak to people. Bad service travles faster than good service. I would like to take this time to Thank you for stepping up and looking at the engine. I will be stopping by to talk to you in person, so we dont have anymore of this computer tough guy stuff. You saw me there and stayed away and she told me you had nothing for me and did not need to talk. So I laughed and said that speaks volumes. Seriously, Thanks Scott. Dynoflo stepped up and re did the engine. Hopefully it is done. Thanks everyone for your replies.
altailites
10-24-2009, 05:47 PM
Firepro
You must not of looked at the very lengthy thread concerning Fram Oil Filters!!!! Go read for a while. And YES, A FILTER CAN TAKE OUT THE BEARINGS IN SECONDS, NOT MINUTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not sticking up for anyone, but he gave you very sound advice on the filter which you clearly chose to ignore. Did you think he just dislikes Fram? Or do you think he was telling you to stay away because he has experience with oil filters causing big dollar engine failures to which Fram will do NOTHING ABOUT????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????
No matter who you choose to build your stuff, ignoring their advise when you admit knowing little about motors is kinda stupid. Just gives the builder ammo to stick it back to you. Wouldn't you rather follow their instructions to the letter and if you had problems what could they say???? You did EVERYTHING they asked right? It also makes for a tense partnership, because who you choose to spend that kind of money with should be someone you trust and who's advise you value not ignore. AGAIN, I AM NOT TAKING SIDES, but do you think his ignoring you and not having a conversation with you had anything to do with not taking his advise and then complaining to HIM?
Trust me, sh!TT happens to the best builders. I have had brand new motors break brand new stuff. Would have happened to whoever got those parts. I can tell you a guy here had his motor break on the dyno before he even got it (from a very well known mountain motor guy) and they called him and told him he needed to pay for new parts. Lets hope you fired it up and all is well.
Blown, sorry don't know your name. The advise was not given to me. First I appreciate the responce. I agree that a motor can break at start up, as you said $hit happens. His responce is not entirely honest and correct. First Scott did stand up and look at the engine, for that he is awesome. But It took 2 months of calling and stopping by and talking with Danny and getting the run around. Maybe Scott did not know the issues and how many times I called asking for his expert advise. I do listen when I can talk to Scott. Maybe this is all due to his employees being liars. I dont know. That fram filter was put on so I could load car on trailer, engine trouble long before that. So I wont use fram, I understand this. I started the car up 1 hour ago. drained oil first, had 4 quarts of oil in it. So I put new oil 7 Quarts and it fired right up. Sounds great rough idle but that can be adjusted. He had an employee call me while I was installing it, this was in my opinion classy and showed me something. But in his responce on here I am a biotch stupid mother f u c k er, read it. This is his attitude once he was paid in full. From the begginning he says I screwed the motor up. When you buy a turnkey motor, the name says it all. It leaked from the intake water jackets from the moment i turned it on. Oh by the way, the intake gaskets were 2 .060's glued togeather. I took them to Danny at Dynoflo and showed him. Scott was not there. Danny tried back peddling and gave me .120 intake gaskets and said don't tell Scott he will just yell. Bottom line he built it and I believe now that some of his employees were hiding some stuff from him. But Scott and Dynoflo did stand up to the plate and make the repairs. I will drive it Saturday to see if in deed it is fixed. Thier is alot more history that was not disclosed. But I do appreciate someone from the outside giving thier opinion. My only question is why did it take this forum to get a responce from Scott. I called trying to get help, which I would have gladly paid for. Maybe he should find better employees if that is the problem. I tried, He saw me there twice and would not look at me and stayed in the back. Then talks tough on the computer, instead of when I am there. We will see eachother at the next PSCA race. Maybe he can talk to me then or I will just stop by the shop, If he will come out of the back. Who knows. Thanks for listening. Advice and your opinion are appriciated. Hey bozo look what you just posted Danny is a stand up guy and I know him well and you my friend just threw him under the bus. think before you post dip-s. I just talked to Danny on the phone and from what he told me you should not even own a race motor or a gun for that matter . the gaskets were not glued together but he did say they looked like they were coming apart . go ahead keep bashing scott and see if he will keep helping you . again think before you post [/b]
firepro65
10-24-2009, 06:01 PM
Firepro
You must not of looked at the very lengthy thread concerning Fram Oil Filters!!!! Go read for a while. And YES, A FILTER CAN TAKE OUT THE BEARINGS IN SECONDS, NOT MINUTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not sticking up for anyone, but he gave you very sound advice on the filter which you clearly chose to ignore. Did you think he just dislikes Fram? Or do you think he was telling you to stay away because he has experience with oil filters causing big dollar engine failures to which Fram will do NOTHING ABOUT????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????
No matter who you choose to build your stuff, ignoring their advise when you admit knowing little about motors is kinda stupid. Just gives the builder ammo to stick it back to you. Wouldn't you rather follow their instructions to the letter and if you had problems what could they say???? You did EVERYTHING they asked right? It also makes for a tense partnership, because who you choose to spend that kind of money with should be someone you trust and who's advise you value not ignore. AGAIN, I AM NOT TAKING SIDES, but do you think his ignoring you and not having a conversation with you had anything to do with not taking his advise and then complaining to HIM?
Trust me, sh!TT happens to the best builders. I have had brand new motors break brand new stuff. Would have happened to whoever got those parts. I can tell you a guy here had his motor break on the dyno before he even got it (from a very well known mountain motor guy) and they called him and told him he needed to pay for new parts. Lets hope you fired it up and all is well.
Blown, sorry don't know your name. The advise was not given to me. First I appreciate the responce. I agree that a motor can break at start up, as you said $hit happens. His responce is not entirely honest and correct. First Scott did stand up and look at the engine, for that he is awesome. But It took 2 months of calling and stopping by and talking with Danny and getting the run around. Maybe Scott did not know the issues and how many times I called asking for his expert advise. I do listen when I can talk to Scott. Maybe this is all due to his employees being liars. I dont know. That fram filter was put on so I could load car on trailer, engine trouble long before that. So I wont use fram, I understand this. I started the car up 1 hour ago. drained oil first, had 4 quarts of oil in it. So I put new oil 7 Quarts and it fired right up. Sounds great rough idle but that can be adjusted. He had an employee call me while I was installing it, this was in my opinion classy and showed me something. But in his responce on here I am a biotch stupid mother f u c k er, read it. This is his attitude once he was paid in full. From the begginning he says I screwed the motor up. When you buy a turnkey motor, the name says it all. It leaked from the intake water jackets from the moment i turned it on. Oh by the way, the intake gaskets were 2 .060's glued togeather. I took them to Danny at Dynoflo and showed him. Scott was not there. Danny tried back peddling and gave me .120 intake gaskets and said don't tell Scott he will just yell. Bottom line he built it and I believe now that some of his employees were hiding some stuff from him. But Scott and Dynoflo did stand up to the plate and make the repairs. I will drive it Saturday to see if in deed it is fixed. Thier is alot more history that was not disclosed. But I do appreciate someone from the outside giving thier opinion. My only question is why did it take this forum to get a responce from Scott. I called trying to get help, which I would have gladly paid for. Maybe he should find better employees if that is the problem. I tried, He saw me there twice and would not look at me and stayed in the back. Then talks tough on the computer, instead of when I am there. We will see eachother at the next PSCA race. Maybe he can talk to me then or I will just stop by the shop, If he will come out of the back. Who knows. Thanks for listening. Advice and your opinion are appriciated. Hey bozo look what you just posted Danny is a stand up guy and I know him well and you my friend just threw him under the bus. think before you post dip-s. I just talked to Danny on the phone and from what he told me you should not even own a race motor or a gun for that matter . the gaskets were not glued together but he did say they looked like they were coming apart . go ahead keep bashing scott and see if he will keep helping you . again think before you post [/b]
Hey, so when are the facts throwing someone under the bus. And yes danny appeared to be a good guy. Maybe you are made of money and can afford to throw away 12k. I can't. Get the whole story instead of defending a friend, this is called charector. You have my #, call me and we can meet if you would like. i have not done anything wrong, except do business with him. Get over it. I will agree you have had good dealings with him. And I would imagine alot of other people have got great service from Dynoflo. I got the run around, period. Thanks for the responce, now be like Scott and reply in your ignorant rude way. Facts only, read all the thread, first. Why would I lie and not bring the engine back as scott said he said. Oh yea I like my car broke. Think about it. Someone is lieing. I am the one with the bad engine. Read all the threads first. And ask around the race track. It is not good.
Tod74
10-24-2009, 06:29 PM
Once people start offering to meet up somewhere(I am assuming to slug it out??) then the thread becomes a joke. All that does is make grown men look like junior high boys challenging each other to a fight on the play ground. JMO If that wasn't what was meant then ignore me.
firepro65
10-24-2009, 06:43 PM
Once people start offering to meet up somewhere(I am assuming to slug it out??) then the thread becomes a joke. All that does is make grown men look like junior high boys challenging each other to a fight on the play ground. JMO If that wasn't what was meant then ignore me.
Not at all, fighting is a kids game. Too old for that crap. It is simple when you write something you leave out crap. He is local and had offered to help with the motor. He thinks that because Scott said it. It is true. In person I can show him my videos of the motor dyno all the way through the start up again today.
So I am sorry if it came off that way. in person you know you can get the facts more clearly.
Look at his post, he said he was going to offer help. Then jumped on the Dyno band wagon. Once again, sorry if I came off that way.
Tod74
10-24-2009, 07:12 PM
Not the first time I misread someone's post...won't be the last.Sorry.
altailites
10-24-2009, 08:12 PM
Once people start offering to meet up somewhere(I am assuming to slug it out??) then the thread becomes a joke. All that does is make grown men look like junior high boys challenging each other to a fight on the play ground. JMO If that wasn't what was meant then ignore me.
Not at all, fighting is a kids game. Too old for that crap. It is simple when you write something you leave out crap. He is local and had offered to help with the motor. He thinks that because Scott said it. It is true. In person I can show him my videos of the motor dyno all the way through the start up again today.
So I am sorry if it came off that way. in person you know you can get the facts more clearly.
Look at his post, he said he was going to offer help. Then jumped on the Dyno band wagon. Once again, sorry if I came off that way. yes I was going to help you but when you posted my pm in the forum that's what pissed me off. that made me think wow this guy is really trying to start shit. then I called Scott to bitch him out on this deal and he said wait phucker don't you want my side of the story so I said sure. so he tells me his side . I really didn't want to get involved I just pm ed you to find out why you were bashing someone that was spending 2 days on your motor dyno time and all to make it right I thought that was cool of him. oooya when and someone gives you free gaskets don't go posting it on a forum where his boss can see it :roll: Danny my be jobless come Monday :( . good luck with your motor and remember to put the right plugs in it :P
firepro65
10-24-2009, 08:59 PM
Once people start offering to meet up somewhere(I am assuming to slug it out??) then the thread becomes a joke. All that does is make grown men look like junior high boys challenging each other to a fight on the play ground. JMO If that wasn't what was meant then ignore me.
Not at all, fighting is a kids game. Too old for that crap. It is simple when you write something you leave out crap. He is local and had offered to help with the motor. He thinks that because Scott said it. It is true. In person I can show him my videos of the motor dyno all the way through the start up again today.
So I am sorry if it came off that way. in person you know you can get the facts more clearly.
Look at his post, he said he was going to offer help. Then jumped on the Dyno band wagon. Once again, sorry if I came off that way. yes I was going to help you but when you posted my pm in the forum that's what pissed me off. that made me think wow this guy is really trying to start s. then I called Scott to bitch him out on this deal and he said wait phucker don't you want my side of the story so I said sure. so he tells me his side . I really didn't want to get involved I just pm ed you to find out why you were bashing someone that was spending 2 days on your motor dyno time and all to make it right I thought that was cool of him. oooya when and someone gives you free gaskets don't go posting it on a forum where his boss can see it :roll: Danny my be jobless come Monday :( . good luck with your motor and remember to put the right plugs in it :P
Hey, sorry about putting your post out there. This is why I gave you my #. This forum stuff is a B itch. Danny does not work there anymore, atleast that is what they tell me. Yes he spent the time and I am greatful if it works. It is how we got to this point that sucks. I put those plugs in to load it on a trailer. Car was hurt long before that. I had 3 melted plugs. I would post pics on here but just want to end this and move on. You can see them anytime you would like along with videos from day 1. I am sure Dyno-flo and Scott are good people. I will keep my opinions to myself from now on. Thanks for the civil responce. I Like all the opinions and I do appreciate Scott's effort in fixing the motor. Once again thanks for your reply.
firepro65
10-25-2009, 04:03 PM
Just took the car for a drive. It fired right up. It is overdriven 12.5% and it ran great for the 2 miles I drove it. I did nothing to it except install it in car complete. When I got back the plug wires seemed extremely hot I have the headers wrapped and have plug sleeves on and they were still smoking hot. Temp gun with engine running read 1500 degrees. I dont know if this is normal or not. Anyways It seems to run real good. Thanks Scott and Dynoflo for fixing this isuue. He seems to be a stand up guy, regardless of what this thread says. I appriciate the effort and time. Regardless of what you think.
gungho
10-25-2009, 04:40 PM
That needs to be tuned,but I will leave it at that,maybe Scott can swing by and hook you up?
firepro65
10-25-2009, 05:37 PM
That needs to be tuned,but I will leave it at that,maybe Scott can swing by and hook you up?
Tuned how? Scott tuned it on the dyno and I am in the same town, so settings should stay the same, right? If headers were not wrapped and plugs have heat boots, they would melt. I had a 427 bbc spinning the blower at 25% over and never got this hot. Could it be that it is a 540. Just trying to learn and some people think that if you dont know this stuff you should not own it. Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Need to learn some how. Scott did right by me. But I think that is it for our doing business. So I will need to find a good shop here in Vegas to tune it, any suggestion?
hammertime
10-25-2009, 07:39 PM
Just took the car for a drive. It fired right up. It is overdriven 12.5% and it ran great for the 2 miles I drove it. I did nothing to it except install it in car complete. When I got back the plug wires seemed extremely hot I have the headers wrapped and have plug sleeves on and they were still smoking hot. Temp gun with engine running read 1500 degrees. I dont know if this is normal or not. Anyways It seems to run real good. Thanks Scott and Dynoflo for fixing this isuue. He seems to be a stand up guy, regardless of what this thread says. I appriciate the effort and time. Regardless of what you think.
its lean or timing is off would be my guess. I hope you rechecked the timing once in the car 90% of the time it will be different then dyno
firepro65
10-25-2009, 09:33 PM
Just took the car for a drive. It fired right up. It is overdriven 12.5% and it ran great for the 2 miles I drove it. I did nothing to it except install it in car complete. When I got back the plug wires seemed extremely hot I have the headers wrapped and have plug sleeves on and they were still smoking hot. Temp gun with engine running read 1500 degrees. I dont know if this is normal or not. Anyways It seems to run real good. Thanks Scott and Dynoflo for fixing this isuue. He seems to be a stand up guy, regardless of what this thread says. I appriciate the effort and time. Regardless of what you think.
its lean or timing is off would be my guess. I hope you rechecked the timing once in the car 90% of the time it will be different then dyno
No I did not check it. Last time I checked it and called him to change it from 38 degrees to like 32 or 34 he said dont touch it. So it seems I am damned if i do and damned if i dont. So I will try to discuss it with the builder, but he says he has went over this with me for atotal of 6 hours according to his post. I just need to take it somewhere and have it tune and I am trying to learn but was insulted for admitting I dont know alot. This is why i paid a professional to build it. But I know enough to know exhaust is never suppose to be 1500 degrees with a heat gun coming off the headers that are wrapped at a idle. But I can't say anything or some people on here think I am ungreatful . I am sure you did not know everything when you got started. But from the post you leave , you seem to know alot. So thanks for your responce. I agree it is off butis it timing or jets. I will leave it to the pros. Just like I did last time. Changed nothing from original build and tune until the motor blew my radiator apart. But he did step up my rebuild it he says. i guess the bearings were bad. This doesnt explain the water in the motor. Thanks for listening.
gungho
10-26-2009, 03:26 AM
A rich condition at idle will cause this due to the unburned fuel still burning inside the headers,or a late burn due to a retarded timing condition,these can both be caused by several different factors,you need to get this looked at by a pro..
altailites
10-26-2009, 04:56 AM
A rich condition at idle will cause this due to the unburned fuel still burning inside the headers,or a late burn due to a retarded timing condition,these can both be caused by several different factors,you need to get this looked at by a pro.. x2
firepro65
10-26-2009, 06:20 AM
A rich condition at idle will cause this due to the unburned fuel still burning inside the headers,or a late burn due to a retarded timing condition,these can both be caused by several different factors,you need to get this looked at by a pro.. x2
Hey, Thanks to both of you. I will find a tuner here in vegas to take my car to. Timing is 38 drgrees and I will check the jets sizes, idle mixture screws are out 1 turn on all corners. That is all I know at this point. thanks again guys. I am learning. But will take it to the pros. Scott did a great thing by fixing my motor. He only tunes on the dyno and not when the motor is in the car. Besides, I think he is more the engine builder than a tuner of customers cars. Which is probably less of a headache, lol So if anyone knows a good tuner of supercharged motors in Las Vegas I sure would appreciate it.
bbchevy
10-26-2009, 11:01 AM
LHR!?
Later
G 8)
firepro65
11-01-2009, 09:37 AM
LHR!?
Later
G 8)
LHR? Is that love hate relationship?
Pure hate on my part.
With 6 hours of phone time, yea right. I wouldn't spend 6 hours on the phone with a girl to get laid. So I think he is a liar. Try 10 minutes, and he said dont touch my tune. EGO.
Anyways, cars exhaust is hot as hell. Taking to a shop in Boulder City, this guy I was told knows his way around blower motors. So hopefully this guy can fix the tune.
Pwmax
12-21-2009, 05:48 AM
The heat can also be caused by the wrong cam in a blower engine.
firepro65
06-17-2018, 01:21 PM
Update, sold motor to someone. They had it rebuilt and it had none of the parts I paid for in it. Hopefully this douche Scott is dead, he is a con artist. Drugs will do that to a person.
gungho
06-13-2019, 05:15 PM
Sorry to hear that but glad nobody got hurt by that grenade.