Bought motor w/trans

[illss]

I bought a motor an trans combo an was used but not as described . It has a large amount of blowby ,ticking slight knock with metallic in oil . I drove all the way to michigan an rented a van which all together costed me 1000 (700 for the seller an van rental + gas) . complete waste of time an money ! heres the link http://www.racingjunk.com/post/886222/400SB-turbo-350.html

[chevguy65]

I am sorry but what seems to be the issue?

The ad states "I just removed the original strong running 400/350 from my 1971 impala! Its a little dirty, with 109,XXX miles. 4bolt main block, two barrel carb. price includes engine,trans,dist,exhaust man,waterpump! thanks for looking"

Does it not run strong?
Were you expecting a new engine for $800.00 plus the trans?

It has over 100,000 miles.

For a complete engine and trans I think what you paid is in the ballpark, considering I have seen 400 blocks bare go for as much as $500.00.

Did he misrepresent anything about it not smoking or that it was a rebuilt engine? Is it a 4 bolt main? Did he tell you it had no knocks?
Had he checked the oil for metal filings?

When you drove down and picked it up di you check the oil on it for metal?
I would have pulled the pan and tried to hook it up and test fired it.

Were you just going to run this motor as is or did you plan on rebuilding it?

Please clarify where he has misreprented what he sold to you.

Thanks

Edit...added to response

[bjuice]

i am with Carl on this one...the motor was advertsied as the orginal motor out of a 1971 automobile (36 yrs old)....come one man...it even looked like a dinosaur in the picture..you could not have expected much more than this.....i think you did good on the price..the traveling expenses were a little harsh but thats not the sellers fault.......

sorry but i cannot see where a motor was mis-represented at being 36 yrs old and ( orginal ).....my carb cost $400 more than the entire package you purchased..

let me ask you a question anbd please be honest:

WHAT WERE YOU EXPECTING ? AND DID YOU READ THE SAME AD I READ WITH THE PICS ETC...


Thanks- brian

[woodsman]

illss welcome to Racing Junk hope you will hang around and learn some good lessons as we all do from this great site. I would just like to say that if your engine an trans that you bought for $800.00 with 109xxx miles and 36 years old and all original lasted longer then 8 mins then you have done better then some people that spent a lot more on a new engine. I would think that the ticking sound would be from a weak lifter so maybe you could change the oil and filter and run it 300 or 400 miles and then change the filter again and put some good oil treatment in it to help with the blow by. I would not use this engine for drag racing. Thanks again for telling us your story and enjoy the site.

[lively]

SOUNDS LIKE A FAIR DEAL TO ME 8) 8) 100,000 MILES IS JUST BROKE IN GOOD AND WELL SEASONED TO GET A GOOD ENGINE OUT OF!---MY 2 CENTS

[alscoupe]

I'm with all the guys, Lively, Brain, Carl and Wes. And add that you can't count anything but gas for travel, you should have your own truck or tag along to start with. No sympathy on this one.

[lotsof454sss]

Well I guess I might as well add the PIGS opinion here also...I looked at the ad and there is no way I would have given $200 for the whole thing had it been in "my city"...I am sorry but just look at it and consider its age and he clearly states it is original and has over 100k miles on it...Now had you been buying the engine behind it that is covered with plastic you would have stolen a deal...But I think you must have gottten excited and made an error in judgement on this one...Of course I do have to add, the guy that placed the ad has a set of big gonads to fish that deep with that picture and description he used and scored $800 with it...What a fisherman he is...Oh, and please do not be offended or think we are a bunch of smart alecs but you asked and we are being sincere so please hang around and get to know all of the folks on this site..

[lively]

GEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!--NEWS FLASH---THE MAN WITH THE BIG GONADS HAS BEEN A MEMBER FOR OVER 2 YEARS!!!!!---I HOPE HE MAKES AN HONOR PAYMENT WITH SOME OF THAT LOOSE MONEY :shock: :shock: :shock:STOP IT LIVELY ,STOP IT :evil: :evil:

[SST4530]

I got to say it doesn't sound like he misrepresented anything to me. If it actually runs your lucky! A good 400 block, heads and rebuildable trans would cost that much if you bought them individually. Doesn't sound like a bad deal accept for the travel expense. Think I would have found something closer to home. Not sure what you expected 109,000 miles and being original. :?

[illss]

http://www.racingjunk.com/read_message/9388257

[illss]

Yeah i got a great deal !!! I explained to him that i need a replacement an he stated that it was good !! My old motor had blow-by etc. an it was in better shape than this one was . I didnt need the tranny an he wouldnt sell motor seperately an needed something quick . He stated the it just needed a wash an valve cover gaskets when it's really a rebulidable core which i already had .

[bjuice]

did 1971 orginal motor not ring a bell..did the picture in the ad not confirm the bell that was ringing.....i am not trying to be hard on you at all...but dude if you know much about motors etc... you should have known this motor should have been in the same shape as yours if not worse..
do you know what BLOW-BY is and why it happens ?

you could have got a BRAND-NEW GM CRATE MOTOR for under 2k and picked it up at youyr local chevrolet dealer.


simple fact is ya gotta have an idea what your buying or get somone who knows....2nd..maybe the motor did run good to the seller..i know many people who runs their truck engines etc with blow by and is very happy with it...


i think the seller did himself a BIG IN-JUSTICE by selling the orginal number matching motor out of his 71 IMPALA..if you hold on to it long enough and keep the sellers info you might be able to sell it back to him double what you paid him once he finds out how bad the car was de-valued without the original motor...

and 109k miles for a 36 year old motor means 3,027 miles a year ..which is highly un-likley in itself...these are the kinds of common sense questions you must ask yourself..the picture of the motor tells me there is a minimum of 250k on the motor if not more...and if its orIginal you can bet eveything in the motor is SHOT or close to being SHOT..


that all i will say on this...good luck to ya


Brian

[alscoupe]

Ditto Brian!

And, just for future reference, if it's a stock replacement daily driver, 99 times outta 100, your better off to rebuild what you've got. Even if you gotta pay a local shade tree (like me) to do the mech-a-neck work, dependent on a good block and rotating assembly; rings, bearings, gaskets, a head job, and labor; you'd of been out $1500 to $2500, running in a week to 10 days, just like off the showroom.

Now, i'm done too.

[illss]

Point is bells or not he lied an im screwed . The motor sux an yes i will buy a crate motor (new) with warranty if i should decide to keep the chevelle . Honestly this has made me think about selling it . Thanks for being hard an honest an now i know next time . No hard feelings an thanks . :wink:

[woodsman]

illss thats the way to do it. Your a good man.

[lively]

illss---just keep on trying-we all live and learn

[woodsman]

lively the last half of that line is ( and then we die an forget it all )

[cepx111]

Ok the temptation is to great I can't resist.
First off. You didn't get screwed, instead you screwed yourself, I mean cmon man think about?
Did you do any comparitive shopping?
Did you do the math? Calcualting the gas money it would take to drive there and back plus van rental fees? Did you check the local junkyards for a running 350? Chances are you drove past hundreds on the way there.
800 bucks maybe was on the high side, but think about what you got?
A std bore 400 4 bolt, highly deseriable block around my parts.
A bare one would bring 300 to 400 easy, not to mention those choice double hump heads all the stock dirt racers are looking for. I could get 200 bucks for them alone.
A good 350 turbo tranny which I'm sure you could sell in local paper for a couple hundred bucks.
Lastly, It was a high mileage, 36 year old motor sold as is. What the hell? You were expecting it to be a tight motor with no blow by?
Not that's just too funny. Believe me, you really opened ur self up for critisism here man, sorry no pity party for you on this one,
can you feel the love? Welcome to the forum. Charles

[lively]

cepx111---NOW DON'T HOLD BACK ON YOUR THOUGHTS] IT CAN CAUSE ULCERS] :lol: :lol: :lol:

[bjuice]

8) 8)

[illss]

Ok the temptation is to great I can't resist.
First off. You didn't get screwed, instead you screwed yourself, I mean cmon man think about?
Did you do any comparitive shopping?
Did you do the math? Calcualting the gas money it would take to drive there and back plus van rental fees? Did you check the local junkyards for a running 350? Chances are you drove past hundreds on the way there.
800 bucks maybe was on the high side, but think about what you got?
A std bore 400 4 bolt, highly deseriable block around my parts.
A bare one would bring 300 to 400 easy, not to mention those choice double hump heads all the stock dirt racers are looking for. I could get 200 bucks for them alone.
A good 350 turbo tranny which I'm sure you could sell in local paper for a couple hundred bucks.
Lastly, It was a high mileage, 36 year old motor sold as is. What the hell? You were expecting it to be a tight motor with no blow by?
Not that's just too funny. Believe me, you really opened ur self up for critisism here man, sorry no pity party for you on this one,
can you feel the love? Welcome to the forum. Charles To answer ur questions yes i did shop around and got quotes from local machine shops and the best price i got was 1650 to rebuild my old one or 1650 for a rebuilt (350 2 bolt main) one plus core charge for a 350 cause no one had 400s an wouldnt take them as cores either . I've looked for 3 weeks on ebay to find something local an i checked craigslist then i got referred here an i got nailed here end of story . I did check junk yards since i happen to be in the auto industry an yet nothing so it was either SAVE up an wait which i wish i had did or believe this GUY an i did an BAM !!!!! I posted not for pity but to leave a feedback an my side of the story an i believe im in the right section of the forum . :twisted:

[illss]

If it was such a bad deal or something then why didnt anyone push to report the ad if it was so bad an obvious ? I learned from my mistakes an it takes one time . :D

[woodsman]

illss don't take all of this the wrong way like you just said you learned a good lesson and with this wisdom will come. But no one is going to tell another person what he thinks something is worth unless he is looking to buy the piece. Do you see what I am getting at there lots of things on racing junk that may not be what its worth to you but to them its the right asking price. Next time you will be ready at the deal you are working. So hang in there you have just started in the fun.

[chevguy65]

If it was such a bad deal or something then why didnt anyone push to report the ad if it was so bad an obvious ? I learned from my mistakes an it takes one time . :D

The ad was not reported because he did not misrepresent it.

Like I said before, and you state your in the auto industry, why didn't you pull the pan, check the motor over before you paid for it and loaded into your van?

a couple hundred in gas and van rental would have been better than what your going through.

We are not enemies illss, but you got what you paid for, nothing more nothing less.

Like they say in latin caveat emptor (buyer beware)

[lively]

CHEVYGUY65---ARE YOU FROM LATIN??/-I HAD A LONG LOST UNCLE ON MY AUNTS SIDE FROM THERE :lol: :lol: :lol: ---SOME NITES ARE JUST WEIRD!@!@!

[chevguy65]

CHEVYGUY65---ARE YOU FROM LATIN??/-I HAD A LONG LOST UNCLE ON MY AUNTS SIDE FROM THERE :lol: :lol: :lol: ---SOME NITES ARE JUST WEIRD!@!@!

No, I just look latin.
http://roger14850.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/p621-lat-photo147.jpg

[lively]

MAAAAAAN- YOU LOOK GOOD IN THAT DRESS!!!! :lol: 8) :lol:

[chevguy65]

MAAAAAAN- YOU LOOK GOOD IN THAT DRESS!!!! :lol: 8) :lol:

I think so.... :shock:

[lively]

I THINK IV'E TOOK WAY TOOO MUCH COLD MEDICINE TODAY :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

[wvhippie]

HEY I'M NOT ALLOWED TO LOOK AT STUFF LIKE THAT YOU GUYS ARE GONNA GET MY OL LADY TO TAKE MY COMPUTER FOR A WEEK. :oops:

[lively]

:idea: CHEVY IS JUST TEACHING EVERYONE A NEW DANCE STEP :idea: ---IT IS EDUCATIONAL!!!! :lol: :lol:

[alscoupe]

Wvhippie;

Better not let your 'ole lady catch ya lookin' at the "twins" I posted, you'll loose your computer for a year! Huh guys? :lol:

[popparaces]

I just wanted to let ilss know,I just put a 350 in a suburban I had. I bought it in long block form from Advance Auto for 1245.00 with a 3yr/150,000 mile warranty. It seems like a well built engine and there were no finger tight rod bolts or anything of that nature. It's not a 400 but it has plenty of power.

[wvhippie]

Wvhippie;

Better not let your 'ole lady catch ya lookin' at the "twins" I posted, you'll loose your computer for a year! Huh guys? :lol:SHH!! WHAT THREAD DID YOU SAY THAT WAS. :twisted:

[alscoupe]

Here you go hippie, since ya missed it, hope the wife ain't lookin.

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[illss]

If it was such a bad deal or something then why didnt anyone push to report the ad if it was so bad an obvious ? I learned from my mistakes an it takes one time . :D

The ad was not reported because he did not misrepresent it.

Like I said before, and you state your in the auto industry, why didn't you pull the pan, check the motor over before you paid for it and loaded into your van?

a couple hundred in gas and van rental would have been better than what your going through.

We are not enemies illss, but you got what you paid for, nothing more nothing less.

Like they say in latin caveat emptor (buyer beware) Again , did u not read the pm's ?? I put a link for the pm conversation so it was misrepresented . I didnt pull the pan because i didnt want to make it seem like i didnt believe him an plus i believe i asked the same question/s more than once an got same response. So again its my fault an the only REASON im posting in case ur arent reading the thread is to let OTHER forum members or racing JUNK members know this guy is no good an if u want to argue about then go ahead because the fact is he lied about it an thats it . I never said ur guys were enemies so dont assume an if i didnt care then i would let someone else get nailed by him.

[illss]

Here you go hippie, since ya missed it, hope the wife ain't lookin.

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/7632/twinsfh0.jpg[/quote] Nice !

[lotsof454sss]

Hey illss, That picture gives you another good 4 reasons to come on in here, right :?:

[jbsjunk]

Hey illss, That picture gives you another good 4 reasons to come on in here, right :?:

What's better? Seeing a bunch of boobs, are talking to a bunch of boobs?

Show of hands?




Anyone? :wink:

[chevguy65]

If it was such a bad deal or something then why didnt anyone push to report the ad if it was so bad an obvious ? I learned from my mistakes an it takes one time . :D

The ad was not reported because he did not misrepresent it.

Like I said before, and you state your in the auto industry, why didn't you pull the pan, check the motor over before you paid for it and loaded into your van?

a couple hundred in gas and van rental would have been better than what your going through.

We are not enemies illss, but you got what you paid for, nothing more nothing less.

Like they say in latin caveat emptor (buyer beware) Again , did u not read the pm's ?? I put a link for the pm conversation so it was misrepresented . I didnt pull the pan because i didnt want to make it seem like i didnt believe him an plus i believe i asked the same question/s more than once an got same response. So again its my fault an the only REASON im posting in case ur arent reading the thread is to let OTHER forum members or racing JUNK members know this guy is no good an if u want to argue about then go ahead because the fact is he lied about it an thats it . I never said ur guys were enemies so dont assume an if i didnt care then i would let someone else get nailed by him.


Sorry Ills but I clicked that pm link and got a message I am not allowed to view this page.
What you should have done is post the actual pm's in here so we could see them.
If it is in YOUR account I cannot get in to look and neither can ANYONE else.

That is why we have 3 Stickys that say to read before you post, we need all the information, not just what you choose to put in.

I am sorry if you were lied to and I have no way to see that, but that is on you not me.

I am not trying to be a jerk, just letting you know that from what we can see, it was just a bad deal.

Also, just advice for the future, if you buy used take it apart, don't trust a guy just because he says it is what it is, but I think you already learned that one.

[illss]

READ FROM THE BOTTOM CAUSE THATS THE BEGINNING.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: transand To: illss Date: 2007-06-08 15:40:26
Subject: Re: Motor
Re: Ad #886222
Message: 3951511 is the casting number on the rear, like i said, it is the original engine to this impala. And these have 4bolt main caps!

On [2007-06-07 22:22:42] illss wrote:
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> U know the casting number on the block?
> On [2007-06-06 21:42:21] transand wrote:
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> > Thanks Josh, i see it in my paypal. Here is my address. 1561 Struble rd.
> > MUIR MICHIGAN 48860 Ill see you sunday,just give me a call when you take off. thanks Andy Fox...
> > On [2007-06-06 19:51:48] illss wrote:
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> > > Money was just sent now . Thanks an ill see u this weekend. U have my number if theres a problem.
> > > On [2007-06-05 17:07:48] transand wrote:
> > > > Yeah, its still active i just checked. I think you just need my e-mail? anyhow, its [email protected]
> > > > On [2007-06-05 16:57:45] illss wrote:
> > > > > i need 2 use paypal to pay it because i already transfered money in my paypal account so if u can check to see if ur still active that"ll be great if not then ima have to pass on it for at least another week .
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> > > > > On [2007-06-04 10:13:56] transand wrote:
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> > > > > > Hey, why dont you call me first. 517 881 3201 thanks Andy...
> > > > > > On [2007-06-04 07:18:20] illss wrote:
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> > > > > > > ok if u say it runs good etc. send me ur paypal address an i will send u the $700 for the motor an trans picked up.
> > > > > > > On [2007-06-03 08:34:25] transand wrote:
> > > > > > > > Sure, if you really want it, and are willing to come after the thing ill sell it to YOU for 700.00 NO LESS!! And yes your intake manifold will fit. thanks Andy...
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> > > > > > > > On [2007-06-02 22:38:39] illss wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 2 more questions . 1) I have a 400 with 350 heads so my weiand intake should fit ur 400 heads right ? thats the only concern which i dont think is a prob cause its still a smallblock.. 2) will u take $700 picked up?
> > > > > > > > > On [2007-06-02 20:17:58] transand wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > my zip code here is 48860 Muir Michigan.
> > > > > > > > > > On [2007-06-02 18:59:57] illss wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > can i have a zip code so i can find out how far u are ? I dont know where lansing is .
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> > > > > > > > > > > On [2007-06-02 16:35:40] transand wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > I do have paypal yes, I live in Michigan, mid michigan, 30 minutes west of Lansing.
> > > > > > > > > > > > On [2007-06-02 14:14:07] illss wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Will u accept paypal ? How far are u again?
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > On [2007-05-27 12:49:59] transand wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > NO, like i said, it could use a good carwashing, and maybee a pair of valve cover gaskets, and install! So anyhow, thats that, if your interested its for sale, thanks Andy...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On [2007-05-27 11:14:44] illss wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so no smoke ?
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On [2007-05-26 20:13:17] transand wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > actually runs VERY strong, it had 100,000 miles on it. I pulled it out of my Impala, the engine and transmission work PERFECT. thanks Andy
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On [2007-05-26 19:16:44] illss wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I NEED A 400 MOTOR FOR MY 71 CHEVELLE AND MY MOTOR IS VERY WEAK RIGHT NOW AN HAS BLOWBY AN SMOKES. hOW IS UR ENGINE ? ANY SMOKE OR KNOCKING ,BLOWBY ETC. ?
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[illss]

Hey illss, That picture gives you another good 4 reasons to come on in here, right :?: Yes it does :!:

[lotsof454sss]

I would like you to know when you use Pay Pal you have like 30 days to file to dispute a transaction. I suggest you file it right away. Looks like you can do something about this based on the dates and your claim of the condition of the motor. Also go to the 3rd post in the scammer section and read it as it pertains to transactions via the internet and the ramifications involved by conducting business using the internet if you sell a product and it is not as represented. I am not taking a side here I am just telling you what I have seen happen when you follow what the law says and if a person does not follow the law they are setting themselves up for alot of problems using the internet....The law is really trying to cut down internet fraud and they want to get it in check before it gets totally out of hand..Good luck and please keep us posted...

[excelerater]

Seems like a good deal to me,did you actually plan on running it like shown?
Its ready for a rebuild and sold as such,looks like a fair deal to me too

[chevguy65]

Ills, this is info had you posted originally would have saved us all a lot of time...
On [2007-05-27 12:49:59] transand wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > NO, like i said, it could use a good carwashing, and maybee a pair of valve cover gaskets, and install! So anyhow, thats that, if your interested its for sale, thanks Andy...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On [2007-05-27 11:14:44] illss wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so no smoke ?


Now, I see he did tell you that the engine DID NOT smoke.
With that in mind you do have some recourse if you so desire to pursue it.

I still feel it was up to you to inspect the engine closely, it has nothing to do with wanting to trust the seller, but good business, and if he had been on the up and up would not have minded or objected to you doing so.
In fact many honest sellers will tear it down if you ask before you get there to inspect it.

With all of that said and at risk of beating a dead horse, now you need to decide whether it is worth the added time and money to go back on this guy. Also, if you used a credit card on paypal, you can dispute it with your cc company.

As stated above good luck and let us know what you decide to do.

[wvhippie]

Here you go hippie, since ya missed it, hope the wife ain't lookin.

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/7632/twinsfh0.jpg Nice ![/quote]I LOVE YOU GUYS!!!!! :D :D :D

[illss]

Seems like a good deal to me,did you actually plan on running it like shown?
Its ready for a rebuild and sold as such,looks like a fair deal to me too Uh yeah but i was just gonna clean it an slap it in an it wouldve been a ok deal if it was good .

[illss]

Ills, this is info had you posted originally would have saved us all a lot of time...
On [2007-05-27 12:49:59] transand wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > NO, like i said, it could use a good carwashing, and maybee a pair of valve cover gaskets, and install! So anyhow, thats that, if your interested its for sale, thanks Andy...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On [2007-05-27 11:14:44] illss wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so no smoke ?


Now, I see he did tell you that the engine DID NOT smoke.
With that in mind you do have some recourse if you so desire to pursue it.

I still feel it was up to you to inspect the engine closely, it has nothing to do with wanting to trust the seller, but good business, and if he had been on the up and up would not have minded or objected to you doing so.
In fact many honest sellers will tear it down if you ask before you get there to inspect it.

With all of that said and at risk of beating a dead horse, now you need to decide whether it is worth the added time and money to go back on this guy. Also, if you used a credit card on paypal, you can dispute it with your cc company.

As stated above good luck and let us know what you decide to do.I've been saying the whole time that he said it was good . an eitherway carma will nail him so ima drop it already an again i just wanted people AWARE thats it . I'm not beggin for anything an just being a good guy an watching out for other people .

[lotsof454sss]

I've been saying the whole time that he said it was good . an eitherway carma will nail him so ima drop it already an again i just wanted people AWARE thats it . I'm not beggin for anything an just being a good guy an watching out for other people .

Hey illss, Do you happen to have a sister that looks as good as either one of the above....You cracked me up on that just being a good guy :lol: ...Thats what we all say ...LOL...Glad to have you around and if you have that sister please let me know...Especially the one on the right with the BIG NICE GRIN...

[chevguy65]

I've been saying the whole time that he said it was good . an eitherway carma will nail him so ima drop it already an again i just wanted people AWARE thats it . I'm not beggin for anything an just being a good guy an watching out for other people .

Hey illss, Do you happen to have a sister that looks as good as either one of the above....You cracked me up on that just being a good guy :lol: ...Thats what we all say ...LOL...Glad to have you around and if you have that sister please let me know...Especially the one on the right with the BIG NICE GRIN...

No the one on the left man....are you dyslexic?

[SST4530]

I've been saying the whole time that he said it was good . an eitherway carma will nail him so ima drop it already an again i just wanted people AWARE thats it . I'm not beggin for anything an just being a good guy an watching out for other people .

Hey illss, Do you happen to have a sister that looks as good as either one of the above....You cracked me up on that just being a good guy :lol: ...Thats what we all say ...LOL...Glad to have you around and if you have that sister please let me know...Especially the one on the right with the BIG NICE GRIN...

No the one on the left man....are you dyslexic?

Oh, she is smiling isn't she! :o :lol: :lol:

[sc3314]

You could build a nice racing engine with the $$$ in both those pairs of those very nice things!!! Not sure which would bring you more pleasure?

At my age I may have a heart attack with those things that defy gravity!

Dave

[SST4530]

You could build a nice racing engine with the $$$ in both those pairs of those very nice things!!! Not sure which would bring you more pleasure?

At my age I may have a heart attack with those things that defy gravity!

Dave

If you had a choice to die with a pair of those or get hit by a bus, which line would you be in?

I'm going to be in that long SOB. :lol: :lol: :wink:

[cepx111]

I would definetly take the one on the left, I'm not real big on fake ti$$ies
Charles

[bjuice]

I would definetly take the one on the left, I'm not real big on fake ti$$ies
Charles

i am disapointed to tell you but the ones on the left are most likley imposters also...too perfect..... :D :D :D

[wvhippie]

I REALLY DONT CARE IF SHE BOUGHT THEM INHERITED THEM OR FOUND THEM IN THE PARKING LOT. THAT AND A COLD GLASS OFF WATER WOULD SEND THE HIPPIE ON TO THAT BIG SWAP MEET IN THE SKY. :twisted:

[chevguy65]

I am partial to the one on the left...why? I don't know, but she sends me...lol

Maybe it is because I have been out with many of the right hand side gals and none that look like lefty.

Just think Hippie, you, her, a fatty and a sleeping bag out under the stars...the one on the right I mean, stay away from my gal.

[jbsjunk]

Just think Hippie, you, her, a fatty and a sleeping bag out under the stars...the one on the right I mean, stay away from my gal.

Yeah, it's your sister. :shock:

[wvhippie]

OK NOW IM GETTING THE PICTURE. I AM GONNA HAVE TO GO TO ANOTHER SITE FOR A WHILE NOW. :oops:

[chevguy65]

OK NOW IM GETTING THE PICTURE. I AM GONNA HAVE TO GO TO ANOTHER SITE FOR A WHILE NOW. :oops:

Nooooooo

stay here....we need old hippies like us

[wvhippie]

OK NOW IM GETTING THE PICTURE. I AM GONNA HAVE TO GO TO ANOTHER SITE FOR A WHILE NOW. :oops:

Nooooooo

stay here....we need old hippies like us IM BACK THAT DIDNT TAKE LONG. :twisted:

[chevguy65]

OK NOW IM GETTING THE PICTURE. I AM GONNA HAVE TO GO TO ANOTHER SITE FOR A WHILE NOW. :oops:

Nooooooo

stay here....we need old hippies like us IM BACK THAT DIDNT TAKE LONG. :twisted:


LOL...ok now I got the picture... :shock:

[alscoupe]

Well guys, I guess hippie's wife didn't catch him 'cause he's still got his computer huh?

And, by the way, your welcome WVHippie. LOL brother man.