Vacuum pump???

[gimmemud]

I am in the process of installing a Moroso new design vacuum pump on my sbc 434. How vacuum do I need to set the regulator on for best performance. This is a nos engine if it matters.

I was told te set it at around 1/2 total rpm, so I guess around 5000 rpm, I turn it to 9600rpm

Thanks,
Randy

[hammertime]

at idle set it to 6-8 on the vacuum gauge this should get you very close

[topsportsman1]

Is this Engine a dry sump or a wet sump?

Are you using a 3 stage or 4 stage vaccume pump?

[gimmemud]

Its the new design 4 vane Moroso. Engine is wet sump, Dart Iron Eagle tall deck. 434ci

[topsportsman1]

As far as setting up the by-pass (moroso) valve,to use shims.

You'll have to experiment with the by-pass
Always set it up so at wide open throttle you have 12 to 15 inches of vaccume at wide open throttle.

I wouldn't worry about the idle,that will only tell you how sealed up the engine is.

If you use higher inches of vaccume it could result in engine damage

This is what I use for figures,12 to 15 max,on a wet sump engine

[billhendren]

I agree with topsportsman1 12-15 inches unless you have piston oilers.
Your on the ragged edge at 9600 ,thats 6400 FPM piston speed and probably way past the power band.try taking enough gear out to drop the rpm to around 8000/8200 I bet you will be a lot faster and for sure the engine life will increase a bunch.Bill

[slowman]

what size cam is in this thing that you make power at 9600rpm with 434? i agree with bill about not spinning it that high. my little cheif headed 414 ran out of power with a .910 lift cam with [email protected] at 8900rpms.

[bjuice]

i just purchased a 4 vane moroso and going to run on my 622 dry sump.
i also purchased the relief valve and was advised to go with 3 shims which will open at 16 inches of vaccum..


these motor builders on here know more about this vaccum than i..but i would like to ad if you have not purcahsed your pump yet i would recommend AUTO -FAB RACE CARS for the purchase of this pump and relief valve...My total savings was $150.00 over what you can purchase from JEGS OR SUMMIT.....

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ask them about their other parts...CHEAP compared to Jegs and Summit.

thanks- BRIAN

[gimmemud]

I have actualy never turned it that high, thats what chip I have in it. The most it has ever turned is 9200. I run alot of nos and just have that high of a chip in it to keep it off the rev limiter. We run mud drags and you never can tell how traction will be until you make the pass, and its not nice when it does hit the limiter. :twisted:

I actualy ordered the pump from Autofab, great people to deal with.

I have the vacuum relief valve, the instructions say 4 shims is 16, 3 shims is 14. Also is it ok to put the relief valve directly in the pump or does it need to go in the valve cover??

The cam is a Harold Brookshire (top secret).l lol I will never tell.



Thanks,
Randy

[gimmemud]

I also would like to know what yall do about the oil fill hole in the opposite valve cover. Will the regular push in type breather-filler cap be sufficient or do I need some type of cap that wont leak such as an expandable freeze plug, kinda like a diesel engine has.

[billhendren]

You can buy a pop off valve and install it on the cover or just get a rubber expandable freeze plug and use it in your existing stand pipe. in either case when the engine is sealed to pull vacuum, you need a way to relieve the pressure in case you burn a piston or blow the head gasket into the valley,otherwise the oil pan will be destroyed from the pressure and you will get an oil bath on the tires.Bill

[slowman]

gimmimud that's some funny right there about the cam lol. if you run to much vacuum it starts pulling oil away from the wrist pins and sides of the bores and thats not good. i never set them up with anymore then 14-15. the vavle covers or the intake is about the best place for them. i think they are a little more accrate in the intake but most put them in the vavle cover.

[gimmemud]

Thanks for all the help guys.

[GSI_111415170813302723143]

I agree with topsportsman1 12-15 inches unless you have piston oilers.
Your on the ragged edge at 9600 ,thats 6400 FPM piston speed and probably way past the power band.try taking enough gear out to drop the rpm to around 8000/8200 I bet you will be a lot faster and for sure the engine life will increase a bunch