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Timmyboy86 05-23-2009 09:20 PM

alky vs gas
 
once it's all said and done is it cheaper to run alky or gas?

dparker 05-23-2009 09:47 PM

Alcohol, as long as you have a source where you can get alcohol for $150.00 a barrel or cheaper.

Tod74 05-24-2009 01:54 AM

how does it compare if you factor in extra maintenance and more frequent oil changes etc? That isn't me arguing by the way, I'm just asking.

hammertime 05-24-2009 04:59 AM


Originally Posted by Tod74
how does it compare if you factor in extra maintenance and more frequent oil changes etc? That isn't me arguing by the way, I'm just asking.

Hey Tod,

There is NO extra maintenance when you have your setup right. Its not alky thats hard to use its people using it who make it harder then it should be. :D

I change oil same as gas, I run no top lube, check valves same as on gas (at oil change) have NO milky oil and looks great when it comes apart.

Tod74 05-24-2009 05:05 AM

I have a couple of friends who run the Ron's terminator setups and they love them. Both cars are very consistant...they never mess with theirs either...but they run vaccume pumps too.The guys I know runing carburators have issues with milking the oil and change the oil just about every week....

hammertime 05-24-2009 06:12 AM


Originally Posted by Tod74
I have a couple of friends who run the Ron's terminator setups and they love them. Both cars are very consistant...they never mess with theirs either...but they run vaccume pumps too.The guys I know runing carburators have issues with milking the oil and change the oil just about every week....

Must be ruperts :wink:

I've never had a issue with alky when I ran apd's, ruperts were always milky and looked like crap.

THERATTLER 05-24-2009 08:07 AM

I'M WITH HAMMER . ALCOHOL IS ABOUT A 1/4 THE PRICE OF RACING GAS RIGHT NOW...I RUN AN ENDERLE HAT ON A BLOWER WITH NO MILKING AT ALL , PEOPLE THAT HAVE MILKY OIL ARE RUNNING TOO RICH. I CAN RICHEN UP THE BARREL VALVE TO STOP THE IDLE HUNT AND MILK UP THE OIL..I HAVE BEEN RUNNING ALCOHOL FOR YEARS WITH NO ENGINE PROBLEMS WHAT SO EVER ,I ALWAYS SHUT DOWN MY ENGINE ON GASOLINE AND SPIN IT OVER WHILE SPRAYING WD 40 IN INJECTOR IF IT IS GOING TO SIT AWHILE. STOPS CORROSION. :D

Tod74 05-24-2009 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by maniac
I'M WITH HAMMER . ALCOHOL IS ABOUT A 1/4 THE PRICE OF RACING GAS RIGHT NOW...I RUN AN ENDERLE HAT ON A BLOWER WITH NO MILKING AT ALL , PEOPLE THAT HAVE MILKY OIL ARE RUNNING TOO RICH. I CAN RICHEN UP THE BARREL VALVE TO STOP THE IDLE HUNT AND MILK UP THE OIL..I HAVE BEEN RUNNING ALCOHOL FOR YEARS WITH NO ENGINE PROBLEMS WHAT SO EVER ,I ALWAYS SHUT DOWN MY ENGINE ON GASOLINE AND SPIN IT OVER WHILE SPRAYING WD 40 IN INJECTOR IF IT IS GOING TO SIT AWHILE. STOPS CORROSION. :D

My friends do the same( run on gas before shut down) Also use a gas primer set up

Timmyboy86 05-24-2009 08:30 PM

maybe i should have been more specific i was trying to compare alcohol to pump gas not race gas

hammertime 05-25-2009 05:42 AM


Originally Posted by Timmyboy86
maybe i should have been more specific i was trying to compare alcohol to pump gas not race gas

no comparsion !

THERATTLER 05-25-2009 07:57 AM

are you talking about for street use? if so I would stick with gas , if for strip only I would go with alky,,,,,J M O

Smokey1226 05-25-2009 08:29 AM

if alky wasn't outlawed from most of the Racing Programs around here i think you would see 65% of the racers using it. But somehow they are outlawed and only can use race gas.

For $130/drum versus $620/drum for C16.......

Cooler air temps, can run a Turbo without intercooler, ect ect How could you go wrong!

dparker 05-25-2009 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by Smokey1226
if alky wasn't outlawed from most of the Racing Programs around here i think you would see 65% of the racers using it. But somehow they are outlawed and only can use race gas.

For $130/drum versus $620/drum for C16.......

Cooler air temps, can run a Turbo without intercooler, ect ect How could you go wrong!

What track is that? :?

Smokey1226 05-25-2009 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by dparker

Originally Posted by Smokey1226
if alky wasn't outlawed from most of the Racing Programs around here i think you would see 65% of the racers using it. But somehow they are outlawed and only can use race gas.

For $130/drum versus $620/drum for C16.......

Cooler air temps, can run a Turbo without intercooler, ect ect How could you go wrong!

What track is that? :?

Its not the track its the racing series....True Street is one, NMCA, is one, i could go on and on.

The track allows anyone to use it!

cepx111 05-25-2009 11:22 PM


Originally Posted by Smokey1226

Originally Posted by dparker

Originally Posted by Smokey1226
if alky wasn't outlawed from most of the Racing Programs around here i think you would see 65% of the racers using it. But somehow they are outlawed and only can use race gas.

For $130/drum versus $620/drum for C16.......

Cooler air temps, can run a Turbo without intercooler, ect ect How could you go wrong!

What track is that? :?

Its not the track its the racing series....True Street is one, NMCA, is one, i could go on and on.

The track allows anyone to use it!

Sounds like big corporate sponsership (Vp) has those series in their back pockets. for me, be a good reason NOT to run in one and go outlaw.

What a crock.

The racers are the ones getting the screw while the big corp(s) rake the benefits, that is unless you win every weekend.
But that's the whole point right?

Same reason #1 runs #16 1st round elims - another crock.

Tod74 05-26-2009 01:31 AM

[quote="cepx111"][quote="Smokey1226"][quote="dparker"]

Originally Posted by Smokey1226
if alky wasn't outlawed from most of the Racing Programs around here i think you would see 65% of the racers using it. But somehow they are outlawed and only can use race gas.


Same reason #1 runs #16 1st round elims - another crock.

That's that way in anything....High school sports even. They do that to prevent the best two guys from meeting up early and eliminating one of them, allowing a worse team to advance leaving the better team eliminated.

Smokey1226 05-26-2009 04:35 AM

i couldnt agree more! i was talking about that in the pits, this past weekend. We don't know who paid to have it setup that way but someone obviously did.


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